why is Tim Bradley #1 JrWW on anybody's list?

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  • junior gong
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    #31
    Originally posted by Gino Ros
    If you asked me on January 1st of this year:

    What is more impressive, a stoppage win over Devon Alexander, or a stoppage win over Judah?

    I would have said that beating Dev is the better accomplishment.
    Yes, but you are a ****ing idiot.

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    • ny123
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      #32
      Originally posted by mathed
      LOL....dude he fought 6 months ago. He beat the guy that nearly everyone thought was the number 1 guy in the division.
      Who thought Alexander was the number one guy in the division? Losing to Kotelnik and getting a gift going into the fight should have let everyone know that this dude was overrated. I was saying that after the Urango fight which btw was not the dominant performance it was made out to be.

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        #33
        Originally posted by BoxerDood
        So if Floyd were to fight Khan and Bradley next, and Manny were to fight some cab drivers, would that make Floyd p4p king? No. You have to beat the best to become the best. And how is Khan's resume more impressive?

        Alexander > Judah
        Lamont Peterson > Andriy Kotelnik
        Kendall Holt > Malignaggi
        Miguel Vazquez = Maidana (and Vazquez could very well box his shoes off)
        Junior Witter > Salita

        Bradley's only good wins before Khan moved up were Vazquez and Witter, so that isn't a valid argument. There's also the inactivity, which isn't his fault. If Maidana hadn't pulled out last year, his resume would s**t on Khan's.

        With that being said, I think Khan's better, but it wouldn't be right to put him at #1 just yet. At least give Timmy a chance to make his claim.
        That's not how rankings nor P4P work...rankings spots and P4P spots are not titles. So they're not won or lost in H2H match ups.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          actually yeah. if pacquiao is fighting scrubs and mayweather is beating better competition , pacquiao would lose his spot to him.

          do you not know this?


          dude , you <=> are all fucked up for those fighters tbh.

          i mean just look at the 1st one.

          alexander > judah?

          alexander just lost to the guy judah beat last year.
          You had Judah winning that fight?

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          • Gino Ros
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            #35
            Originally posted by The_Golden_Goy
            but it isnt Jan 1st, and since Jan 1st weve discovered Alexander is actually cr@p and over-rated.

            Bradlets resume in still good, but one fight in 2 years at the weight hurts his credibility for being number 1, which he no longer is anyways
            Wait - Dev is crap because he got beat by Tim?... or because he fought "even-ish" with Mathysse? I would bet that Mathysse gives Khan all he wants.

            I get your point... but Khan accomplished no more this year than Tim did.

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              #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              That's not how rankings nor P4P work...rankings spots and P4P spots are not titles. So they're not won or lost in H2H match ups.
              I understand that, but you have to give the #1 guy a chance to make his claim. Aside from the inactivity, he has been doing his job. Perhaps the Manny reference wasn't a good one.

              The fact is, Bradley has been keeping up with Khan this whole time and he's been #1. Whether you think Khan is better is just an opinion right now. Now if Bradley were to fight another Abregu next, hell yeah Khan would be #1. But if he were to fight someone like Maidana/Guerrero or Humberto Soto, he'd still have his claim to the #1 spot.

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              • mathed
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                #37
                Originally posted by ny123
                Who thought Alexander was the number one guy in the division? Losing to Kotelnik and getting a gift going into the fight should have let everyone know that this dude was overrated. I was saying that after the Urango fight which btw was not the dominant performance it was made out to be.
                Man, I won about 10 bets on Bradley beating Alexander. There were about 20 or more posts that I remember reading where people were saying "Alexander is going to expose Bradley" or "Bradley can't handle the speed of Alexander", "Bradley is an overrated bum"

                Plenty of people were all riding that hype train.

                I was just laughing because I knew that Bradley was the far superior boxer, just as he is in comparison to Khan.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  You had Judah winning that fight?
                  i had no problem with judah winning it tbh.

                  it wasn't a robbery to me.

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                  • junior gong
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                    #39
                    Khan is currently the number 1 jnr welter, anybody says any different is a nuthugger, race warrior or a ****ing idiot or possibly a combination of the aforementioned. Thats it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Gino Ros
                      Wait - Dev is crap because he got beat by Tim?... or because he fought "even-ish" with Mathysse? I would bet that Mathysse gives Khan all he wants.

                      I get your point... but Khan accomplished no more this year than Tim did.

                      Cast you mind back to Kotelnik.

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