What Max Kellerman thinks about Jose Bautista, and how it relates to Pacquiao...

[Squizz]

yea, he doesnt kno wat hes talking about. bautista went from being a bench player to being the best player in the mlb. there is no wiggle room there. went from being close to being cut from a team to being the best in the whole league. do u get that?

It does seem strange. I will admit that much. Who knows if they even let him slide on a positive test. Apparently they let Barry Bonds slide.

[Kagami Taiga]

It does seem strange. I will admit that much. Who knows if they even let him slide on a positive test. Apparently they let Barry Bonds slide.

chances are if hes doing something, they just dont kno what it is. its something new thats proly totally undetectable. either that or the guy got struck by lightening and became a superhero. when i see him play, its like damn. this guy went from being below average to great. its totally inexplicable.

thats why im saiying, i dunno if hes doing, and i certainly hope hes not, because hes a very likable guy. but if someone were to look for a prototype of an athlete that could possibly be using, its him. **** all that manny ****.

[SixFootGiant]

So because Bautista becomes the premier power hitter in sports he's on PED's? God forbid that he actually maybe just worked on his game, improved in all facets, and got better that way..just saying

[The Hammer]

There are many examples in baseball history where players who were ordinary for years start producing brilliant numbers.

Sandy Koufax

not a bad rookie:

1955: 2-2 3.02

then 5 rather rather poor seasons:

1956: 3-4 4.91
1957: 5-4 3.88
1958: 11-11 4.48
1959: 8-6 4.05
1960: 8-13 3.91

then 2 decent seasons:

1961: 18-13 3.52
1962: 14-7 2.54

and then 4 brilliant seasons:

1963: 25-5 1.88
1964: 19-5 1.74
1965: 26-8 2.04
1966: 27-9 1.73

Athletes mature and improve. Sometimes they find a groove.

[Kagami Taiga]

So because Bautista becomes the premier power hitter in sports he's on PED's? God forbid that he actually maybe just worked on his game, improved in all facets, and got better that way..just saying

yea, no...that **** doeant happen in baseball. esp when ur on the step of your 30th bday. mebbe u dont watch baseball, but i do, religiously. its very unheard of, and its not just his power hitting. like i said, he went from being sent down to AA ball to being the best player in the mlb. and this isnt some guy who was ever highly touted or anything like that. its very peculiar. and its hard to blame ppl for being skeptical.

[Kagami Taiga]

There are many examples in baseball history where players who were ordinary for years start producing brilliant numbers.

Sandy Koufax started in 1955. His numbers were:

not a bad rookie:

1955: 2-2 3.02

then 5 rather rather poor seasons:

1956: 3-4 4.91
1957: 5-4 3.88
1958: 11-11 4.48
1959: 8-6 4.05
1960: 8-13 3.91

then 2 decent seasons:

1961: 18-13 3.52
1962: 14-7 2.54

and then 4 brilliant seasons:

1963: 25-5 1.88
1964: 19-5 1.74
1965: 26-8 2.04
1966: 27-9 1.73

Athletes mature and improve. Sometimes they find a groove.

thats a pitcher. totally different ball game. u cant compare at all.

[SixFootGiant]

yea, no...that **** doeant happen in baseball. esp when ur on the step of your 30th bday. mebbe u dont watch baseball, but i do, religiously. its very unheard of, and its not just his power hitting. like i said, he went from being sent down to AA ball to being the best player in the mlb. and this isnt some guy who was ever highly touted or anything like that. its very peculiar. and its hard to blame ppl for being skeptical.

Late bloomers occur all the time in sports, im not even a casual baseball fan or a fan in general but **** I know you dont have to be on PED's to be a successful power hitter.

Barry Bonds in Pittsburgh or pre-PED's was one of the best players in baseball, could hit for power, run the bases, and field his position well. Ken Griffey Jr didnt use PED's and was one of the 90's premier sluggers, etc. I know those guys were great from the start, but **** maybe Bautista just found his groove and his talent is now showing

[Check_hooks]

I'm not a big baseball watcher but it seems to me that you can tell when a homerun hitter is using roids. Just look at their physique. Like Mcguire, Sosa, Bonds, etc they all got freaking huge.

Bautista is 6 feet and 195 pounds probably all muscle. He just doesn't look like he is on roids imo.

[Kagami Taiga]

Late bloomers occur all the time in sports, im not even a casual baseball fan or a fan in general but **** I know you dont have to be on PED's to be a successful power hitter.

Barry Bonds in Pittsburgh or pre-PED's was one of the best players in baseball, could hit for power, run the bases, and field his position well. Ken Griffey Jr didnt use PED's and was one of the 90's premier sluggers, etc. I know those guys were great from the start, but **** maybe Bautista just found his groove and his talent is now showing

nahh, im telling u. baseball is a game with so many moving parts, its more thar rare. i dont think i can ever think of a time where it happened. barry and ken were both great and highly touted. any everyday player that u can name rite now thats considered great in the league were highly touted. its rare for such a thing to happen in most sports, but in baseball its more than rare.

[Squizz]

yea, no...that **** doeant happen in baseball. esp when ur on the step of your 30th bday. mebbe u dont watch baseball, but i do, religiously. its very unheard of, and its not just his power hitting. like i said, he went from being sent down to AA ball to being the best player in the mlb. and this isnt some guy who was ever highly touted or anything like that. its very peculiar. and its hard to blame ppl for being skeptical.

It sorta' reminds me of Brady Anderson smashin' out 50hr one year outta' NO WHERE, and NEVER DOING IT AGAIN. We now know that he was on the juice. It really does seem like Jose is on something. You don't start putting up huge homerun numbers after 25 years old. Just doesn't work like that.

Ken Griffey Jr. was a huge homerun hitter very early on in his career. And we can be pretty freakin' certain that he never used PEDs.

Heck, when someone asked him about, he laughed and said something to the effect of, "Steroids? I've never curled a dumbbell in my life!"

LOL.

Wish we could say the same for someone like Manny Pacquiao.