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  • #81
    Originally posted by rocco1252 View Post
    Arum is one man doing alot of talk yet Manny is in there fighting every 4 months and beating guys and respectable guys at that. Thats what makes him in your terms "the one". There are always guys like this in boxing it's been that way throughout the history of the sport, when a fighter fights anyone put in front of him and wins he is loved by most and people want to see him fight. There have been alot of points made about why people want to watch Gayweather fight and to see him lose is the best one, he is a very skilled fighter that rubs fans the wrong way. Ali did the same thing in his day and gained more respect after his retirement than he had while he was fighting I feel the same thing is going to happen with Floyd winning or losing.
    lol manny isn't fighting every 4 months.

    plus since 09 manny is fighting twice a year.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by rocco1252 View Post
      Arum is one man doing alot of talk yet Manny is in there fighting every 4 months and beating guys and respectable guys at that. Thats what makes him in your terms "the one". There are always guys like this in boxing it's been that way throughout the history of the sport, when a fighter fights anyone put in front of him and wins he is loved by most and people want to see him fight. There have been alot of points made about why people want to watch Gayweather fight and to see him lose is the best one, he is a very skilled fighter that rubs fans the wrong way. Ali did the same thing in his day and gained more respect after his retirement than he had while he was fighting I feel the same thing is going to happen with Floyd winning or losing.
      Thats exactly what will happen. The only problem I have is yes Mayweather should fight more but if he fought the same caliber of fighters Pac did (Former Champions/losers/old men etc) he would still get flack.

      Again, no matter who he fights he wont get credit for it. Not now at least. Once he fights and beats Pac, it will be exactly the same but a new chapter. Floyd's self made TV personality is made for people to hate and wont get credit for anything until he's long gone (you don't know what you have until you don't have it).

      Pac's great and exciting but once Floyd makes that fight out to be more boring than the Pac Mosley fight was, people will REALLY hate him for being able to make Pac look that way, not losing, making it boring and for talking a lot of shyt post fight. Again he wont get credit for it.

      What's ironic is people used to bytch to him about fighting "smaller" fighters (even before JMM) and yet now people want him to fight the smaller Pac. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Floyd cant win for losing and well thats his own damn fault. But that fault has made him more money than any active fighter and I think that's another reason people dislike him. Numbers don't lie, people buy his fights and hate that they do....

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      • #83
        Originally posted by WESS View Post
        Thats exactly what will happen. The only problem I have is yes Mayweather should fight more but if he fought the same caliber of fighters Pac did (Former Champions/losers/old men etc) he would still get flack.

        Again, no matter who he fights he wont get credit for it. Not now at least. Once he fights and beats Pac, it will be exactly the same but a new chapter. Floyd's self made TV personality is made for people to hate and wont get credit for anything until he's long gone (you don't know what you have until you don't have it).

        Pac's great and exciting but once Floyd makes that fight out to be more boring than the Pac Mosley fight was, people will REALLY hate him for being able to make Pac look that way, not losing, making it boring and for talking a lot of shyt post fight. Again he wont get credit for it.

        What's ironic is people used to bytch to him about fighting "smaller" fighters (even before JMM) and yet now people want him to fight the smaller Pac. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Floyd cant win for losing and well thats his own damn fault. But that fault has made him more money than any active fighter and I think that's another reason people dislike him. Numbers don't lie, people buy his fights and hate that they do....
        true and people willl say "boxing is dead"

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        • #84
          Mayweather in da heezie

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          • #85
            Originally posted by BoZz View Post
            Shut your ****** azz up man haha

            Manny beating respectable guys?? He's beating what USED TO BE respectable guys..those guys come in from damaging losses and they come in at a catch weight..he's fighting shells.

            How come he didn't fight this well back in the days when JMM gave him those two horrible beatings???

            You see with arums perfect match making everything is possible..leftovers,top rank bumms,catch weights,damaged goods...that's all he's fighting and if you don't agree then you're a ****** moron
            whats floyd fought then? Gatti who was far past his fighting prime after many wars that most fighters barely are able to recover from even after one never mind 10, Ricky Hatton Same thing, Zab Judah who has never won a fight on the biggest stage regardless of being "Super Champion" winning titles against B class opposition, De La Hoya who was atleast 3 years past his fighting prime and barely active at that point, Baldimor who is a B class if not C class fighter who's biggest win to date was against Arturo Gatti, Marquez a true warrior yet is and was past his prime although still puts on a good performance, an old Shane Mosley as you call him.

            So come on wheres the difference? Furthermore Gayweather couldnt knock but the B class fighters out never mind the A class fighters. Your post is ******ed everything you tried to make a point on is squashed.

            Gayweather is an inactive great skilled fighter who's ego gets the best of him and the fans, Pac is a very active hard fighting brawler type fighter who gains peoples respect because of life style. Both win when they fight and both should be in the ring against one another end of story.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
              Floyd cleaning up the sport is like Casey Anthony advocating better child care, just sayin.
              Because the commission isn't doing anything about the inferior testing standard. Until something happens, Floyd is changing the standard. How hard is this to understand?

              Something will happen. It has too, we all know PEDS exist. Wait you do know PEDS exist right?

              Just because the Urine test is the "current" failed standard doesn't mean PEDS will magically disappear. Like I said, eventually the standard will have to change. Meantime ANYONE who "WANTS" to step in the ring with Mayweather will submit to a BETTER testing standard. Its really really really easy to comprehend. Really..... it is.

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              • #87
                floyd will go into another hiding after the ortiz fight, trust me. she will never fight pacquiao and will continue to make the drug testing issue as an excuse even though pacquiao already agreed to those damn tests, floyd will continue insisting that pacquiao doesn't want to take the tests. ****** floyd, poor fans.

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                • #88
                  floydie boy forgot that both he and pac started their boxing career (whether it be pro or amatuer) at the same weight...so this thing about moving up in weight is ridiculous. also, keep in mind that pac didnt have the kind of daily meal that floydie had.

                  floydie even exagerated the thing about moving up to heavyweight and fighting the klitchkos. floydie is exagerating everything pacquiao...what an ignorant fool.

                  floydie boy needs to clean up (talking about a fair fight when he ignored the catchweight against marquez and all he did was fawking smile) his own act before even thinking about cleaning up the sports of boxing

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                  • #89
                    Floyd says "someone doesn't suddenly become a good fighter at 25". What an idiotic statement!! Pacquiao won 2 world titles before he turned 24 (flyweight & super bantam)!

                    Then at 24 yrs old, Pacquiao destroyed Barrera (top 2 P4P and the lineal featherweight champ at the time) who just relinquished his WBC featherweight world title. So Pac should've had 3 world titles by the age of 24!!
                    Last edited by adp023; 07-22-2011, 08:21 PM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by rocco1252 View Post
                      I'm a firm believer in the sport and how it's been for years and years. It's crap that a fighter can make his own terms without the commission. If the commission changed the rules and said ALL fighters have to do the type of testing Gayweather is asking for then hell I'm all for it until then follow whats been in place for years. It's not like they dont get tested right after the fight and the testing for the most part isnt fool proof if you try to mask something that can be found as well as whats in your system that your trying to mask.
                      Again people evolve. I take it your the guy that doesn't like change and uses the line of "well that's the way its always been"?

                      Testing after the fact? Are you serious? So your saying its OK to cheat because you will be cought after the fact? Unacceptable. Especially when you can catch the fighter BEFORE hand. Would YOU personally want to compete with someone and wait until AFTER the competition to find out if it was fare or not? I wouldn't. You say, "follow whats been in place for years", did we not just agree that the CURRENT testing standard has failed?

                      Why wait on someone else to do there job? Do you wait on others to make the RIGHT choices? Or do you set them up for success by setting an example? Floyd SHOULD be seen as setting an example and Pac as a congressman and leader SHOULD follow Floyd (like he does with opposition).

                      The standard will have to change one way or another.

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