riskier fight??manny-jmm or floyds-ortiz

[Jack Napier]

classic cinema :joker:

[lebrick]

so was floyd-jmm a good fight?

you and your triangle theories..

what does jmm-pac has to do with jmm-floyd?

[MaD RoBoT]

thats more than arguable. pac was still in his prime at 147. in fact id say he became a better fighter as he went up in weight to 140/147. pac is bigger now, hes better. marquez is smaller, hes older, out of his prime and hes fighting at a weight he clearly does not belong at. stop making excuses.

so tell me how come Pac is bigger than JMM?

just because he's more succesfull at 147 doesn't mean he's bigger now, are you kidding me?

Pac's got athletic skills which make him competitive even at 147, something JMM hasn't thats why he struggles at that weight

[Ringlife]

Ortiz vs Mayweather is more of a risk because Mayweather hasn't fought in more than a year and I think it's a little bit more of an even fight. Marquez did not look good the last time he fought at 144 pounds Mayweather pitched a complete shutout agains't him.

[MaD RoBoT]

Manny's a natural welterweight, that's why his body would go back to 145+ on fight night.

can you explain to me how Manny is a natural welterweight if he can't even weigh in at the exact limit?

[Motofan]

Ortiz is young, hungry, and hits hard enough to drop everyone he fights (win or lose.) That is a risk no matter how great Floyd is. Marquez at a lower weight and a few years ago and my vote would have went the other way. But as it is, I think they see Marquez as ripe to be taken. Maybe next will be Williams...

[RespekonMyName]

floyd , 12 to 1 odds of winning , i wonder what pac and jmm would be? , definitely lower than that for sure , floyd is a fraud , even odd makers knows this fight is a gimme

[chiguy91]

can you explain to me how Manny is a natural welterweight if he can't even weigh in at the exact limit?

so you think manny walks around a lighter weight than welter? and eats and builds muscle to get up to 144ish? no way, i don't think so man. i remember reading somewhere that ariza said manny weighed about 151ish a couple weeks before weigh-ins and they're going to cut down to the mid 140s to get lean and be 100% for his fight (i think it was for the margs fight). not too sure if the article was real, but that's what i read. i think i even saw an elie seckbach video where ariza said it too, not too sure.

[MaD RoBoT]

so you think manny walks around a lighter weight than welter? and eats and builds muscle to get up to 144ish? no way, i don't think so man. i remember reading somewhere that ariza said manny weighed about 151ish a couple weeks before weigh-ins and they're going to cut down to the mid 140s to get lean and be 100% for his fight (i think it was for the margs fight). not too sure if the article was real, but that's what i read. i think i even saw an elie seckbach video where ariza said it too, not too sure.

yeah i believe Pac's walk weight is around 135 to 140 and i don't believe he's walking around over 150 like Ariza says

his body structure as you can see isn't that ripped and thick that can accomodate a 150+ frame

[MaD RoBoT]

can you imagine a 150+ lbs. of body mass inside a 5'5 - 5'7 body frame?

manny would look like a bloated smurf