Comments Thread For: Zab Judah: I Can Deal With Whatever Amir Khan Brings

[ts33]

I can't wait for Zab to pull off this upset. There are only a handful of people on this site giving him a chance. Zab's bandwagon is going to be plenty full come Sunday.

Dude, just look at this thread

A lot of people think Judah will win, and many more think he he has a good chance to KO Khan early

... come Sunday they'll be saying Judah was shot

[Brother Jay]

This is how ignorant you really are. And dumb as can be. The two people you mentioned who has no problem of taking the test wanted to get paid.

Ummm ... what fighter doesn't want to get paid? Is Manny Pacquiao fighting for just the honor? In that case he should just refuse his part of the purse in his upcoming fight. Right? Idiot.

Ortiz to get shot at the second best boxer in the world will do anything to get in the ring with him. Even the washed up moseley would do anything.

Second best? When did Manny Pacquiao become the best? Is it when Manny fought DLH after Floyd outboxed him? Is it when Manny fought Hatton after Floyd KO'd him? Is it when Manny fought Cotto after Margarito had beaten him bloody? Or was it when he fought Joshua Clottey who has lost every significant match in his career? No no .. it must be when Arum paid Texas officials to lift Margarito's ban in that state so that he could fight Manny for a vacant jrMW belt that neither man was in contention for, right? No? Oh ... I know ... it was when Manny fought Mosley who has been dominated by Floyd and managed a draw in his fight right before he faced Manny. That must have been when Manny became #1, right?

You are an ignorant peasant who is too ****** to be ashamed of himself.

But when the talks about Pac and Fraud really intensified, Fraud started looking for excuses to duck Pac.

Name one excuse. Just one. The demand is the same. USADA random testing to the day of the fight. In the beginning they negotiated Floyd down to 14 days and then refused it. Now they are begging for the 14 days.

I'll be waiting for the excuse, peasant. You are desperate and it shows. So this ought to be amusing.

Why didn't Fraud ask Delahoya or Hatton for testing or JMM. And Martinez and Williams where is you facts. Fraud will never fight MartineZ in the next year. He'll wait until he is old and washed up just like Moseley and DLH.

Why should Floyd fight Martinez in the next year? A better question is why didn't Pacquiao who claimed to be a 154lbs titlist???? Why did Manny IMMEDIATELY vacate the belt? Its because he knew he'd have to defend it. He;; he didn't even fight a legit jrMW.

He fought DLH without the test.
He fought Hatton without the test.
He fought JMM without the test

Then when it was Pac and Fraud's time to meet, he asked for the testing. If any boxing fans out there do not see these then you are just as ignorant as LeadupperCut.

That's because DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't come up in weight and then begin start to stand toe to toe with bigger men. DLH was KO'd for going up to MW and fighting the best. Marquez got beat attempting to do the same thing. Only Pacquiao has come up since pairing with Roach and has been able to stand in front of WW and quasi jrMW and stand toe to toe. In boxing, that's called bull****. When other boxers have moved up and challenged a bigger fighter, they usually stick and move. Their power doesn't translate to what it was at lower weights. So they must rely on being elusive.

Not Pacquiao. He just get's stronger the higher up he goes. That is indicative of PED use. Ask ANY boxer.

Roy Jones@HW = did not have his power
DLH@MW = did not have his power
Shane Mosley@154 = did not ever have power
Diego Corrales@147 = no power at all
Erik Morales above 130 = little power
Zab Judah above 140 = little power

Its just a fact. Boxers do not carry the same power when hitting an opponent 4 or 5 divisions heavier than where they carried big power. Floyd used to knock out many of his opponents. Floyd's KO ratio diminished as he climbed the divisions. Same happened to everyone listed above.

What happens after that of course Fraud is going to keep asking for testing so that he won't look like he is ducking Pac. then he will keep on fighting up and comer so that all those fighters will agree to his drug testing request. It's a great set up. But only ignorant people like LeadUppercut buys this bull****.

Up and comer? Ortiz is the WBC WW world champion. LOL. Everyone in the WORLD has stated that they will take Floyd's tests for the kind of payday Pacquiao is looking at. Some say they would take half that and still take the tests. This isn't about up and comers, you **** peasant. Its about TRANSPARENCY. Pacquiao agreed to FULL TRANSPARENCY but refuses to follow through which shows him to be a LIAR.

You don't publicly agree to a demand then change your mind later on. That's a b!tch move and even a *******ed peasant like you should see that. You will not be able to show any inconsistencies in Mayweather's stance.

"Take the tests we have a fight. Don't take the tests we don't have a fight." - Floyd Mayweather

Manny doesn't have to take the tests. No one is forcing him. He can always take the coward's way out and decline to fight, but we all know that will open the flood gates and the stigma of being a PED abuser will follow him and his legacy FOREVER.

Manny Pacquiao cannot have it both ways. You can't call yourself the best and then duck the best for 3 years. That supposed "#1 P4P in the world" **** would have been shut down 3 years ago had Pacquiao found the balls to sign the contract and fight.

TRUTH: Manny Pacquiao has benefited more by NOT fighting and losing to Floyd Mayweather. All this speculation couldn't have gone on this long if the fists would have shown and proved. It was in Pacquiao's best interests not to have risked everything.

If Pacquiao would have won, he would have been a god of boxing. However, Pacquiao is the betting underdog for good reason. Floyd hasn't fought in a year. Floyd is the older fighter. Floyd fights once a year.

Even with all those factors, Floyd is STILL the betting favorite. Pacquiao, Roach and Arum knows this. They know why too. That's why we still don't have a signed contract.

Its a fact that Manny has been able to make more of a name for himself by fighting his stablemates under Top Rank than if he were to risk a fight and lose to Mayweather.

Mayweather simply continued to beat the best:

Mosley#1 WW & Ortiz#2 WW

Pacquiao isn't even a real WW champion as he fought Cotto for a vacant belt.

Pinoy puh-leez.

[Brother Jay]

I can't wait for Zab to pull off this upset. There are only a handful of people on this site giving him a chance. Zab's bandwagon is going to be plenty full come Sunday.

I don't think its that many people don't give Zab a chance. I thinks it more about people not being sure about which Zab will show up.

At his best, Zab can beat anyone. At his inconsistent worst, Zab can be beaten by a journeyman. Its never been about skills with Judah. Its always been about focus and discipline.

I'm rooting for Zab, but after seeing him give one inconsistent performance after another there's no way I'd bet on him. It wouldn't be intelligent.

[Rapid Counter]

Ummm ... what fighter doesn't want to get paid? Is Manny Pacquiao fighting for just the honor? In that case he should just refuse his part of the purse in his upcoming fight. Right? Idiot.



Second best? When did Manny Pacquiao become the best? Is it when Manny fought DLH after Floyd outboxed him? Is it when Manny fought Hatton after Floyd KO'd him? Is it when Manny fought Cotto after Margarito had beaten him bloody? Or was it when he fought Joshua Clottey who has lost every significant match in his career? No no .. it must be when Arum paid Texas officials to lift Margarito's ban in that state so that he could fight Manny for a vacant jrMW belt that neither man was in contention for, right? No? Oh ... I know ... it was when Manny fought Mosley who has been dominated by Floyd and managed a draw in his fight right before he faced Manny. That must have been when Manny became #1, right?

You are an ignorant peasant who is too ****** to be ashamed of himself.



Name one excuse. Just one. The demand is the same. USADA random testing to the day of the fight. In the beginning they negotiated Floyd down to 14 days and then refused it. Now they are begging for the 14 days.

I'll be waiting for the excuse, peasant. You are desperate and it shows. So this ought to be amusing.



Why should Floyd fight Martinez in the next year? A better question is why didn't Pacquiao who claimed to be a 154lbs titlist???? Why did Manny IMMEDIATELY vacate the belt? Its because he knew he'd have to defend it. He;; he didn't even fight a legit jrMW.



That's because DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't come up in weight and then begin start to stand toe to toe with bigger men. DLH was KO'd for going up to MW and fighting the best. Marquez got beat attempting to do the same thing. Only Pacquiao has come up since pairing with Roach and has been able to stand in front of WW and quasi jrMW and stand toe to toe. In boxing, that's called bull****. When other boxers have moved up and challenged a bigger fighter, they usually stick and move. Their power doesn't translate to what it was at lower weights. So they must rely on being elusive.

Not Pacquiao. He just get's stronger the higher up he goes. That is indicative of PED use. Ask ANY boxer.

Roy Jones@HW = did not have his power
DLH@MW = did not have his power
Shane Mosley@154 = did not ever have power
Diego Corrales@147 = no power at all
Erik Morales above 130 = little power
Zab Judah above 140 = little power

Its just a fact. Boxers do not carry the same power when hitting an opponent 4 or 5 divisions heavier than where they carried big power. Floyd used to knock out many of his opponents. Floyd's KO ratio diminished as he climbed the divisions. Same happened to everyone listed above.



Up and comer? Ortiz is the WBC WW world champion. LOL. Everyone in the WORLD has stated that they will take Floyd's tests for the kind of payday Pacquiao is looking at. Some say they would take half that and still take the tests. This isn't about up and comers, you **** peasant. Its about TRANSPARENCY. Pacquiao agreed to FULL TRANSPARENCY but refuses to follow through which shows him to be a LIAR.

You don't publicly agree to a demand then change your mind later on. That's a b!tch move and even a *******ed peasant like you should see that. You will not be able to show any inconsistencies in Mayweather's stance.

"Take the tests we have a fight. Don't take the tests we don't have a fight." - Floyd Mayweather

Manny doesn't have to take the tests. No one is forcing him. He can always take the coward's way out and decline to fight, but we all know that will open the flood gates and the stigma of being a PED abuser will follow him and his legacy FOREVER.

Manny Pacquiao cannot have it both ways. You can't call yourself the best and then duck the best for 3 years. That supposed "#1 P4P in the world" **** would have been shut down 3 years ago had Pacquiao found the balls to sign the contract and fight.

TRUTH: Manny Pacquiao has benefited more by NOT fighting and losing to Floyd Mayweather. All this speculation couldn't have gone on this long if the fists would have shown and proved. It was in Pacquiao's best interests not to have risked everything.

If Pacquiao would have won, he would have been a god of boxing. However, Pacquiao is the betting underdog for good reason. Floyd hasn't fought in a year. Floyd is the older fighter. Floyd fights once a year.

Even with all those factors, Floyd is STILL the betting favorite. Pacquiao, Roach and Arum knows this. They know why too. That's why we still don't have a signed contract.

Its a fact that Manny has been able to make more of a name for himself by fighting his stablemates under Top Rank than if he were to risk a fight and lose to Mayweather.

Mayweather simply continued to beat the best:

Mosley#1 WW & Ortiz#2 WW

Pacquiao isn't even a real WW champion as he fought Cotto for a vacant belt.

Pinoy puh-leez.

If gold K's existed I would of gave you one for that post

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I can't wait for Zab to pull off this upset. There are only a handful of people on this site giving him a chance. Zab's bandwagon is going to be plenty full come Sunday.

Oh I been givin Zab plenty of chance to win this fight Rip mah homie. I even put up 500Mil on Zab to pull the upset. The only things Zab do not have in his favor are youth, and reach. Everything else Zab has. And for those that think Amir is faster than Zab..........Ya'll are dead wrong, even at this stage in Zab's career, he is still faster than Amir.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Ummm ... what fighter doesn't want to get paid? Is Manny Pacquiao fighting for just the honor? In that case he should just refuse his part of the purse in his upcoming fight. Right? Idiot.



Second best? When did Manny Pacquiao become the best? Is it when Manny fought DLH after Floyd outboxed him? Is it when Manny fought Hatton after Floyd KO'd him? Is it when Manny fought Cotto after Margarito had beaten him bloody? Or was it when he fought Joshua Clottey who has lost every significant match in his career? No no .. it must be when Arum paid Texas officials to lift Margarito's ban in that state so that he could fight Manny for a vacant jrMW belt that neither man was in contention for, right? No? Oh ... I know ... it was when Manny fought Mosley who has been dominated by Floyd and managed a draw in his fight right before he faced Manny. That must have been when Manny became #1, right?

You are an ignorant peasant who is too ****** to be ashamed of himself.



Name one excuse. Just one. The demand is the same. USADA random testing to the day of the fight. In the beginning they negotiated Floyd down to 14 days and then refused it. Now they are begging for the 14 days.

I'll be waiting for the excuse, peasant. You are desperate and it shows. So this ought to be amusing.



Why should Floyd fight Martinez in the next year? A better question is why didn't Pacquiao who claimed to be a 154lbs titlist???? Why did Manny IMMEDIATELY vacate the belt? Its because he knew he'd have to defend it. He;; he didn't even fight a legit jrMW.



That's because DLH, Hatton and Marquez didn't come up in weight and then begin start to stand toe to toe with bigger men. DLH was KO'd for going up to MW and fighting the best. Marquez got beat attempting to do the same thing. Only Pacquiao has come up since pairing with Roach and has been able to stand in front of WW and quasi jrMW and stand toe to toe. In boxing, that's called bull****. When other boxers have moved up and challenged a bigger fighter, they usually stick and move. Their power doesn't translate to what it was at lower weights. So they must rely on being elusive.

Not Pacquiao. He just get's stronger the higher up he goes. That is indicative of PED use. Ask ANY boxer.

Roy Jones@HW = did not have his power
DLH@MW = did not have his power
Shane Mosley@154 = did not ever have power
Diego Corrales@147 = no power at all
Erik Morales above 130 = little power
Zab Judah above 140 = little power

Its just a fact. Boxers do not carry the same power when hitting an opponent 4 or 5 divisions heavier than where they carried big power. Floyd used to knock out many of his opponents. Floyd's KO ratio diminished as he climbed the divisions. Same happened to everyone listed above.



Up and comer? Ortiz is the WBC WW world champion. LOL. Everyone in the WORLD has stated that they will take Floyd's tests for the kind of payday Pacquiao is looking at. Some say they would take half that and still take the tests. This isn't about up and comers, you **** peasant. Its about TRANSPARENCY. Pacquiao agreed to FULL TRANSPARENCY but refuses to follow through which shows him to be a LIAR.

You don't publicly agree to a demand then change your mind later on. That's a b!tch move and even a *******ed peasant like you should see that. You will not be able to show any inconsistencies in Mayweather's stance.

"Take the tests we have a fight. Don't take the tests we don't have a fight." - Floyd Mayweather

Manny doesn't have to take the tests. No one is forcing him. He can always take the coward's way out and decline to fight, but we all know that will open the flood gates and the stigma of being a PED abuser will follow him and his legacy FOREVER.

Manny Pacquiao cannot have it both ways. You can't call yourself the best and then duck the best for 3 years. That supposed "#1 P4P in the world" **** would have been shut down 3 years ago had Pacquiao found the balls to sign the contract and fight.

TRUTH: Manny Pacquiao has benefited more by NOT fighting and losing to Floyd Mayweather. All this speculation couldn't have gone on this long if the fists would have shown and proved. It was in Pacquiao's best interests not to have risked everything.

If Pacquiao would have won, he would have been a god of boxing. However, Pacquiao is the betting underdog for good reason. Floyd hasn't fought in a year. Floyd is the older fighter. Floyd fights once a year.

Even with all those factors, Floyd is STILL the betting favorite. Pacquiao, Roach and Arum knows this. They know why too. That's why we still don't have a signed contract.

Its a fact that Manny has been able to make more of a name for himself by fighting his stablemates under Top Rank than if he were to risk a fight and lose to Mayweather.

Mayweather simply continued to beat the best:

Mosley#1 WW & Ortiz#2 WW

Pacquiao isn't even a real WW champion as he fought Cotto for a vacant belt.

Pinoy puh-leez.

I couldnt Green you so I sent you 3Mil instead.

[-Lowkey-]

I hope people on these boards are ready to give Khan credit for destroying Zab and looking sensational in the process.

Zab is the same old Zab one K.O victory over the likes of journeyman Mabuza (who was winning on points before the stoppage and had already been K.Oed twice by sub par opposition in his career) such a K.O victory may fool the naive amongst us but not me.

[-Lowkey-]

Dude, just look at this thread

A lot of people think Judah will win, and many more think he he has a good chance to KO Khan early

... come Sunday they'll be saying Judah was shot

Yep always the way, as soon as Khan beats Judah to a pulp they will be back to the nonsense about Khan ducking a Maidana rematch or Khan should have fought Matthysse because everyone knows he really beat Judah and yes most importantly Zab has been shot for years Khan cherry picked him.

Haters will hate.

[Rip Chudd]

Oh I been givin Zab plenty of chance to win this fight Rip mah homie. I even put up 500Mil on Zab to pull the upset. The only things Zab do not have in his favor are youth, and reach. Everything else Zab has. And for those that think Amir is faster than Zab..........Ya'll are dead wrong, even at this stage in Zab's career, he is still faster than Amir.

Yeah no way is Amir faster than Zab on Zab's worst day. I got a lot riding on Zab myself man, I think he's going to shock a lot of people. He might be a little better condition wise as well since he's working with Conte and that altitude machine. How's the desert treating you Chief? This Iraq heat is no joke man!!

[Rip Chudd]

Yep always the way, as soon as Khan beats Judah to a pulp they will be back to the nonsense about Khan ducking a Maidana rematch or Khan should have fought Matthysse because everyone knows he really beat Judah and yes most importantly Zab has been shot for years Khan cherry picked him.

Haters will hate.

There definitely will be people saying everything you mentioned. If Amir beats him he deserves props. Outside of the Bradley fight I thought this one was the best option.