Larry,u's 1of my favorite e-homeys.But sometimes u leave me scratching my head bro.sometimes at 160 & below,Martinez is the man.Then all of a sudden it's back to Floyd is the man & acting like a deluded *****.Then Marquez doesn't belong at welterweight,now all of a sudden a fat,bloated Marquez is gonna somehow give Pacman hell??
Marquez isn't doing what Cotto couldn't.Marquez is gonna get bossed on by Manny,the fight won't be competitive.Pacman is a bonified welterweight.Marquez was having trouble & got hurt by lightweights.Dropped by lightweights & had wars with lightweights.Manny beat the **** outa real,legit welterweights.
No matter how much *******s claim Manny can make 135,he can't.But even if he could he won't.Pacman must have an advantage everytime he performs so Marquez is getting screwed,beaten & dominated at welterweight so Manny can look good & make easy ppv money.While his fans rant & rave along with espn about how great Manny is.Except for Atlas,1 of the few espn analyst that knows anything about the sport.
Pacquiao has improved since the last Marquez fight, he's simply a smarter better fighter now and although Marquez hasn't looked worse, he has aged a few years which is always gonna work against a fighter.
It also works in favor of Pacquiao because it is being fought at 144 when Marquez is alot more natural at 135.
The only reason i think Marquez can be competitive is because he is a tough matchup stylistically for Pacquiao. He's an excellent counter puncher, moves well and puts together some amazing combinations which has worked against Pacquiao everytime they fight.
When i really think about it, Pacquiao's advantages outweigh Marquez's.
I think Pacquiao stops Marquez, it could be in the early rounds or late rounds but i'm confident he gets stopped which is unfortunate because i like Marquez.
Larry,u's 1of my favorite e-homeys.But sometimes u leave me scratching my head bro.sometimes at 160 & below,Martinez is the man.Then all of a sudden it's back to Floyd is the man & acting like a deluded *****.Then Marquez doesn't belong at welterweight,now all of a sudden a fat,bloated Marquez is gonna somehow give Pacman hell??
Marquez isn't doing what Cotto couldn't.Marquez is gonna get bossed on by Manny,the fight won't be competitive.Pacman is a bonified welterweight.Marquez was having trouble & got hurt by lightweights.Dropped by lightweights & had wars with lightweights.Manny beat the **** outa real,legit welterweights.
No matter how much *******s claim Manny can make 135,he can't.But even if he could he won't.Pacman must have an advantage everytime he performs so Marquez is getting screwed,beaten & dominated at welterweight so Manny can look good & make easy ppv money.While his fans rant & rave along with espn about how great Manny is.Except for Atlas,1 of the few espn analyst that knows anything about the sport.
True story right there, This fight above 140 is a joke IMO.
Pacquiao has improved since the last Marquez fight, he's simply a smarter better fighter now and although Marquez hasn't looked worse, he has aged a few years which is always gonna work against a fighter.
It also works in favor of Pacquiao because it is being fought at 144 when Marquez is alot more natural at 135.
The only reason i think Marquez can be competitive is because he is a tough matchup stylistically for Pacquiao. He's an excellent counter puncher, moves well and puts together some amazing combinations which has worked against Pacquiao everytime they fight.
When i really think about it, Pacquiao's advantages outweigh Marquez's.
I think Pacquiao stops Marquez, it could be in the early rounds or late rounds but i'm confident he gets stopped which is unfortunate because i like Marquez.
I don't think the weight will effect Marquez much unless he tries to put on more weight, Pacquiao is only 3-4 pounds heavier than him on fight night. About Marquez being a tough match up and Pacquiao improving I agree, I'm not sure if Pacquiao will stop him but it's very possible.
I don't think the weight will effect Marquez much unless he tries to put on more weight, Pacquiao is only 3-4 pounds heavier than him on fight night. About Marquez being a tough match up and Pacquiao improving I agree, I'm not sure if Pacquiao will stop him but it's very possible.
Last time Marquez fought at 144 he looked terrible. I'm sure that was alot more to do with the fact he was fighting Mayweather than the weight but it sure won't help anyway.
Marquez going 12 rounds wouldn't surprise me, I'm just basing it on the fact that Pacquiao has never looked stronger that what he has at welterweight imo and Marquez is naturally a lightweight, and his chin is shaky at times although he's never been stopped.
Lol at comparing the Cotto of today to the Marquez of today. Marquez has been in 3 or 4 times as many wars as Cotto and is nearly 10 years younger and he's still a better fighter than Cotto.
Not only will Marquez shock the world, he'll show all you sheep that skill pay the bills, no matter how old you are.
Honestly I think Pac stops Marquez this time around. Pac has been able to move up and retain most of his speed. When Marquez move up for Floyd he was soft and stuck in mud. Granted Mayweather probably would have made him look bad anyway, but speed kills. Marquez doesn't have the same speed or timing he did fighting Pac at 130.
Originally posted by joseph5620
I agree 100 percent. I don't see this fight as competitive or close.
The weight isn't even the main issue with me, Marquez was on the slide before the last Pac fight (was still an excellent fighter though) hes been on a sharp decline since that fight.
Pacquiao's last 7 opponents wish they were as good as Marquez is at 37. Not saying JMM will win, but it's not going to be a walk in the park for Pacquiao.
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