Comments Thread For: Fury: Klitschko-Haye Was ****, I'll Make Britain Happy
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I will see about that book, yea the Roman's are a tribe from what is now called Romania/Moldova. I wonder if anyone ever did a lineage/dna trace on them to see who's DNA they carry and when exactly did they split living with society and become a "cult" per se. What was the turning point to where they decided to live like this? Was there a major natural disaster? Plague? Diseases?MEDVED hope you don't mind my butting in to thank you for your kind words. The Roman people-the Gypsies- are not connected with Rome, more likely Romania, but they call themselves the Romany. There were a couple of good books about Gypsy life written by a mid 19th cent writer called George Borrow, which I have somewhere. They were "Romany Rye" and "Lavengro". "Rye" meant "nice young man". Even read them in school.
Some thought they originated in Egypt, hence "Gypsies". No one really knows where they come from, they had/have their own language and hated Catholics, particularly priests. I read these books long ago so I could be wrong, but they were very famous, and made Borrow's reputation as a major writer. Gypsies are in most major countries, and keep in touch with each other. I often used to see adverts in the Sunday papers, for racing forecasts and fortune telling by "Gypsy Petulengro" whom I'm sure some older posters will recollect.
Generally "diddling" the public, which was, everyone except themselves.
Tinkers (travellers) were/are on a much lower level in Ireland than in England, and led a wretched life. But it was a huge task to break them of it, and I don't even know how successful that has been.. We used to say that England was 50 years behind the US and Ireland (although right next door) was 100 years behind England.
They are interesting people, they remind me of Indian's somehow, just looking at their face. Gonna see if I can find their lineage to see how they progressed and from where.Comment
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That's the way a modern mind thinks. I never thought of that. I'd like to know what you find out.I will see about that book, yea the Roman's are a tribe from what is now called Romania/Moldova. I wonder if anyone ever did a lineage/dna trace on them to see who's DNA they carry and when exactly did they split living with society and become a "cult" per se. What was the turning point to where they decided to live like this? Was there a major natural disaster? Plague? Diseases?
They are interesting people, they remind me of Indian's somehow, just looking at their face. Gonna see if I can find their lineage to see how they progressed and from where.Comment
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Are you really Irish? If so, if you have parents or uncles who are interested in boxing, if they ever remember Martin Thornton Of Spiddal, Sligo. The Bowld "Martcheen" we used to call him. When I went to study in a village in the Gaelteacht out that way, I used to pass by his little sheebeen and sometimes see him standing at his doorway with a drink in his hand, and maybe a little clay pipe in thhe other. I think he always had a drink (dhrinkh) in his paw. He billed himself as The Champion of Ireland, and was able to wangle himself a fight with Bruce Wood****, the British Heavyweight Champ, who, I think, around that same year (not certain of date) had fought Lee Savold for the World title (British Version) Freddie Mills fought Gus Lesnevitch for the Lt. heavy title. Don't know if Thornton had ever been in the ring before although he'd had oadsof "fights". You know what I mean.
Annyway... The Bowld Martcheen swaggered into the ring, and was carried out stiff, about 4 minutes after, and we never heard another word from him. heard he went back to Spiddal.
By the way, I agree with you, I think Fury feels that if he talks like Haye, he can make some money and being a tinker,he uses 4 letter words to say the same things. Hasn't much to recommend himself except size as far as I can see. He couldn't be very good, although might be a bit of "blood and thunder for a round or two. I've never seen him..
Just a matter of interest to an Irish boxing fan.Comment
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They are not from Romania, they originated from India, and the word "Romani" is simply derived from the fact that in their language the word "rom" means "man". They migrated to almost every country in Europe from India in the 11th century.I will see about that book, yea the Roman's are a tribe from what is now called Romania/Moldova. I wonder if anyone ever did a lineage/dna trace on them to see who's DNA they carry and when exactly did they split living with society and become a "cult" per se. What was the turning point to where they decided to live like this? Was there a major natural disaster? Plague? Diseases?
They are interesting people, they remind me of Indian's somehow, just looking at their face. Gonna see if I can find their lineage to see how they progressed and from where.
Their lifestyle originated from the fact that they migrated to Europe to escape persecution and from the fact that they have also been persecuted in every European country in which they have settled.
And yes, their DNA has been tested and confirms their Indian origins, as do their language and their music, which both have strong Indian influences.
The Wikipedia article on their history is pretty good.Last edited by Dave Rado; 07-19-2011, 05:52 PM.Comment
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