Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel, Rafael Marquez Batter Opponents in Cancun

[LeadUppercut]

If you want to talk about fixed fights, talk about the way matchmakers make fights in which they know 100% who the winner will be. This was one of those fights. Dive? Sorry, no. Unless you consider a guy quitting a dive. No let me rephrase that. A guy who was in a fight merely for a paycheck quitting.

That's how I see it.

The KD was legit, he just chose to stay down, thats all.

Great point about the matchmakers.

[Drunken Cat]

Does James "Buster" Douglas ring a bell?

Or how about Rahman vs Lewis I, Ali vs Spinks I, Klitscho vs Sanders, Jones vs Tarver II.....

I think you get the point. Crazier things have happen in the history of boxing where the favorite was suppose to win but things didn't work out that way. What better way to make sure there aren't any suprises than pay the man that's suppose to lose so he can lose as planned.

Were Buster Douglas, Hasim Rahman, Michael Spinks, or Corrie Sanders bums from Columbia with padded records from fighting taxi drivers? No? That's my point. This guy had NO CHANCE whatsoever. He has nothing in common with any of the guys you listed. And it doesn't speak highly of people who would compare them.

[LeadUppercut]

Were Buster Douglas, Hasim Rahman, Michael Spinks, or Corrie Sanders bums from Columbia with padded records from fighting taxi drivers? No? That's my point. This guy had NO CHANCE whatsoever. He has nothing in common with any of the guys you listed. And it doesn't speak highly of people who would compare them.

Plenty of fighters have decided to stay down, or not to come out for another round. It is reaching to call that fight a fix.

Now the Clottey/Pacquiao fight, that could be an entirely different story.

Someone choosing not to get up after a legit KD, is way different than someone choosing not to fight for 12 rounds, even though he could hit and hurt his opponent seemingly at will. Also, I bet that Ramos excuse is not as bizarre as Clottey's shopping list of rubbish excuses.

The funniest thing about that fight..... when Clottey was interviewed straight afterward he used diahorrea as an excuse for his innocuous performance, but when he was interviewed a couple of weeks later, he provided a plethora of excuses but did not mention the diahorrea even once