Comments Thread For: Juan Manuel, Rafael Marquez Batter Opponents in Cancun

[AndyShitHot]

You guys are all morons. Ramos is a BUM. He has no business carrying JMM's jockstrap. He couldn't go a round in sparring with JMM. He obviously got hit, knocked down, and didn't want anymore.

More likely there was a brown envelope waiting for him from Mr Arum if he made JMM look like the most powerful 140er to ever grace this universe.

[Drunken Cat]

More likely there was a brown envelope waiting for him from Mr Arum if he made JMM look like the most powerful 140er to ever grace this universe.

Why the f.uck would they need to pay off a bum? The moral of this thread is you guys are giving Ramos way, way too much respect. The guy is nobody. I might as well have been fighting JMM.

[AndyShitHot]

Why the f.uck would they need to pay off a bum? The moral of this thread is you guys are giving Ramos way, way too much respect. The guy is nobody. I might as well have been fighting JMM.

Everyone knows he's a bum but the way he went down was unusual, Arum didn't need to pay Ramos but could've just been a sweetener to make sure he didn't try too hard and mess up Top Rank's next big PPV.

[Drunken Cat]

Everyone knows he's a bum but the way he went down was unusual, Arum didn't need to pay Ramos but could've just been a sweetener to make sure he didn't try too hard and mess up Top Rank's next big PPV.

Yeah, because Ramos was really going to upset JMM. Give me a break.

[Drunken Cat]

If you want to talk about fixed fights, talk about the way matchmakers make fights in which they know 100% who the winner will be. This was one of those fights. Dive? Sorry, no. Unless you consider a guy quitting a dive. No let me rephrase that. A guy who was in a fight merely for a paycheck quitting.

[Drunken Cat]

And do you guys not realize Ramos is actually a 130 pounder? What, you can't even boxrec the guy? This bullsh.it about showing that JMM can carry his weight to 140 is just that, bullsh.it. Ramos is a 130 pounder. They matched him up against a bum, and they got a bum result. All of you conspiracy theorists should get laid or something, or do something to find a better use for your time.

[dawge]

All i kno is that Marquez caught him with a clean right to the chin which snapped dudes head back. Was it fixed? I don't know. I don't see the point but whatever.. I could say the fights against Manny where Marquez lost were fixed too! maybe cause Manny was more marketable who knows.. anyways Go Marquez!!

[BoxingGenius27]

Why the f.uck would they need to pay off a bum? The moral of this thread is you guys are giving Ramos way, way too much respect. The guy is nobody. I might as well have been fighting JMM.

Does James "Buster" Douglas ring a bell?

Or how about Rahman vs Lewis I, Ali vs Spinks I, Klitscho vs Sanders, Jones vs Tarver II.....

I think you get the point. Crazier things have happen in the history of boxing where the favorite was suppose to win but things didn't work out that way. What better way to make sure there aren't any suprises than pay the man that's suppose to lose so he can lose as planned.

[LeadUppercut]

Whine? Coming from the guy thats been crying conspiracy theories about fights that have happened in the past? We are on a thread about Marquez and all you can talk about is Pacman? Guess the sarcasm of my stories went over you're head. I'll indulge your little conspiracy theories and respond: Just watched the middle rounds of Pac vs Clottey and I'm assuming you're claiming the 6th round as the supposed "fix" that was obvious.

From the 2:18 mark for all of 15 seconds Clottey had Pac on the ropes. He did not pin him against the ropes with a relentless attack, he was not hurting Pac or doing any damage and he was certainly not hitting Pac at will.

When Pac backed up to the ropes on his own, Clottey threw a 4-5 punch combo that probably landed 1 clean shot, Pac tapped his gloves, Clottey threw a glancing right that didn't land flush, threw a glancing left that didn't land flush and that was it.

What instincts did Clottey ignore? Clottey has never displayed KO power in competitive fights. He has never shown the killer instinct to hurt or try to take a fighter out. Clottey has always clammed up against his stiffest comp. Pac, Cotto, Margarito, Judah and Corrales all made it to the final bell.

If you actually watched boxing you would understand Clottey's style. He has always been known for his shell defense, fast hands and losing against top competition because he doesn't let his hands go. Yes, he timed Pac a bit in that fight and landed clean, but, his nature in not to be the aggressor. He did not have faster hands than Pac and did not want to open up.

Let Pac off the ropes? You're joking right? Now that I'm done stooping to your ridiculous levels of ******ity I think I'll go **** my head against a wall. Thanks again.

Whatever spins your wheel dude.....

You make out like Clottey was so inept that he could barely remember how to throw a punch. If he was that bad, then why was Pacquiao fighting him?

1.) " I don't know how to explain..... "

2.) " I really don't understand what happened to me in that fight..... "

3.) " I just think it was one of those things..... "

4.) " I don't know what happened..... "

5.) " I knew I could hurt him when I threw my power shots..... "

6.) " I didn't feel like his punches really hurt me..... "

7.) " I felt OK after..... "

8.) " there are so many reasons the fight happened the way it did..... "

[tangalog2200]

1 round, what a useless tuneup it turned out to be

yes, i think so, too...

the tune up would have been more useful to jmm if he had somehow been put to the test more....

the ko might only give jmm a false sense of confidence....