Comments Thread For: George Foreman: Klischko Was Afraid To Engage Haye

[Steak]

If it weren't for the ropes holding Lewis up in that second rd he would have been KD, and maybe even in the same rd...stopped.

if anything being held up on the ropes would make you more likely to be knocked out, since you cant go down and get your 10+ second break and will continue to get hit.

stop with this revisionist crap. just like Kirk Johnson-Ruiz, which you never responded to because you didnt expect that anyone had actually seen it.

[Die Antwoord]

Foreman came back at 45 to become the best heavyweight in the world.

and Norton, who he demolished, gave Holmes a hell of a fight. the same Holmes that would in his 40s beat Mercer much more one sidedly than a near prime Lennox Lewis could.

how can you not see how good that era was? two guys from that era were still getting world class wins two decades later...

And Joe Calzaghe beat Roy Jones and James Toney lost to Roy Jones and James Toney beat the hell out of Holyfield and Holyfield beat the hell out of tyson and Tyson beat Holmes and Holmes beat Ali. Joe Calzaghe would clearly beat the hell out of Ali. GTFOH with these ****** ass triangle theories.

Also George won a belt, he wasnt champ...he shouldnt even had a shot. Want to talk about a weak as **** era. 1993. 84 year old George Foreman coming off a loss, hadnt won a fight in 2 years got a title shot....GOT A TITLE SHOT. Why? because 2 years earlier he beat Pierre Coetzer? What a joke, he won on a bolo...he couldnt beat Tommy Morrison, what a joke. He was getting beat, hit a guy with a bolo and won, happens sometimes in HW boxing, doesnt mean ****.

[edgarg]

A young George Foreman was a lot of fun to watch, but lets look at the facts.

A prime Foreman relied on his physical size and strength in an era of smaller men. At his peak he was a hair over 6'3 and between 215 and 220 pounds.

David Haye lists at 6'3 and weights in about 5-10 pounds less than the young Foreman.

Let's not also forget that Foreman was completely outboxed and defeated by what would have been a modern day Cruiserweight in Jimmy Young. I rank Wlad quite a bit higher than Young.

Foreman has always been critical of guys who are anything other than face first brawlers with no regard for defense. That is what he was, and that's what he had an easy time beating. The guys who boxed him took him to school and he didn't like it then and he doesn't like it now.

Klitschko would most likely jab Foreman and keep him at bay and let him tire himself out in a less artistic way than Ali did it. Foreman couldn't be ruled out, but it's actually one of the hypothetical historical fights that I think would suit Wladimir best.

As far as fights that would be awesome to see. How about Vitali vs a young Foreman?

Ali didn't do "it" artistically in my opinion. He had lost his legs and couldn't move from side to side or back, which would have easily dealt with Foreman's blundering half-pushing punhes. Klitschko could have easily avoided Foreman 7 days a week, and whilst Foreman was doing his usual "walking straight in" Klitschko's huge, dead straight punches wpuld have taken his head off eventially, depending on how long he could stand it.

My opinion. And i don't believe that Klitschko has a bad chin. I think it's better than average.

[Battle*Hardened]

If it weren't for the ropes holding Lewis up in that second rd he would have been KD, and maybe even in the same rd...stopped.

WTF are you even talking about? Where, show me? Lewis was never in that much trouble. Lewis TKO6 Vitali.

[Steak]

And Joe Calzaghe beat Roy Jones and James Toney lost to Roy Jones and James Toney beat the hell out of Holyfield and Holyfield beat the hell out of tyson and Tyson beat Holmes and Holmes beat Ali. Joe Calzaghe would clearly beat the hell out of Ali. GTFOH with these ****** ass triangle theories.

Also George won a belt, he wasnt champ...he shouldnt even had a shot. Want to talk about a weak as **** era. 1993. 84 year old George Foreman coming off a loss, hadnt won a fight in 2 years got a title shot....GOT A TITLE SHOT. Why? because 2 years earlier he beat Pierre Coetzer? What a joke, he won on a bolo...he couldnt beat Tommy Morrison, what a joke. He was getting beat, hit a guy with a bolo and won, happens sometimes in HW boxing, doesnt mean ****.

There are no triange theories. Foreman DID become the best heavyweight in the world 20 years after his prime. Moorer was the best HW in the world after beating Holyfield. and that was a Holyfield that had just beaten Bowe and would immediately go on to beat up Ray Mercer as well, worse than Lewis did. And surely you at least respect Lewis, right?

and if 1993 was a weak era, what does that make this? Holyfield deserved to beat beat a top 5 heavyweight in Valuev, and beat him more convincingly than David Haye did...and Haye is considered by most as the 3rd best HW in the world(or he was prior to this last loss). I mean geez.

Hell, what about Foreman beating Briggs at 48? Briggs is somehow going the distance with Vitali years and years after HIS prime. not to mention he beat Liakhovich with terrible asthma and stamina.

You people keep saying the 70s were weak, but in reality 2 fighters from the 70s had success 2 decades later, in their 40s. That is not the sign of a weak era.

[Boxingtech718v2]

there are no triange theories. Foreman did become the best heavyweight in the world 20 years after his prime. Moorer was the best hw in the world after beating holyfield. And that was a holyfield that had just beaten bowe and would immediately go on to beat up ray mercer as well, worse than lewis did. And surely you at least respect lewis, right?

And if 1993 was a weak era, what does that make this? Holyfield deserved to beat beat a top 5 heavyweight in valuev, and beat him more convincingly than david haye did...and haye is considered by most as the 3rd best hw in the world(or he was prior to this last loss). I mean geez.

Hell, what about foreman beating briggs at 48? Briggs is somehow going the distance with vitali years and years after his prime. Not to mention he beat liakhovich with terrible asthma and stamina.

You people keep saying the 70s were weak, but in reality 2 fighters from the 70s had success 2 decades later, in their 40s. That is not the sign of a weak era.

really now............this is getting good!

[edgarg]

which era son?? the 70's era was the best in boxing history..wanna see a weak ass era..look at the era now..and foreman took moores "0" he was undefeated..foreman was the "linear champ" **** a belt and when briggs beat him he became lineal...lean the damn sport

Sorry Larry to have to disagre with you again. it seems to be becoming a habit. But you have a habit too, you shoudl control your "shouting" in super capitals.

Foreman was NOT champion, he had been stripped about 3 years before, as i recollect, and when briggs beat him (barely) he did not become champion either. My recollection is, I believe accurate, and I'm sure the evidence is around somewhere. Look for it. I'd even bet money on it I'm so sure. And THAT'something I RARELY say.

So all this talk about "Lineality" is bogus. You should learn to accept it. I don't know how the myth got started in the first place. But boxing is full of myths.

[Steak]

Sorry Larry to have to disagre with you again. it seems to be becoming a habit. But you have a habit too, you shoudl control your "shouting" in super capitals.

Foreman was NOT champion, he had been stripped about 3 years before, as i recollect, and when briggs beat him (barely) he did not become champion either. My recollection is, I believe accurate, and I'm sure the evidence is around somewhere. Look for it. I'd even bet money on it I'm so sure. And THAT'something I RARELY say.

So all this talk about "Lineality" is bogus. You should learn to accept it. I don't know how the myth got started in the first place. But boxing is full of myths.

Who was the best HW in the world when Foreman-Moorer was happening? It wasnt Holyfield, becuase Moorer had just beaten him. It wasnt Bowe, because Holyfield had just beaten him. It wasnt Lewis, because Lewis had just gotten knocked out by McCall earlier that year. It wasnt Vitali, because he hadnt turned pro yet.

Well? How was Foreman not the HW champ?

[WladIsTheChamp]

Ol George is just mad cause he has to suck the Klitschko d*ck for $10K a pop making appearances at everyone of their fights - what, your grills ain't selling George?

Oh and your son sucks at boxing...

Everyone jealous of the Klitschkos, just cause Wlad doesn't want his brain to turn to mush for your entertainment, like Ali did, doesn't mean he is "afraid to get hit". It's boxing, you hit and don't get hit, that's the object, not to trade punches like two bums (Ali and Foreman) to see who would fall down first.

[Battle*Hardened]

Ol George is just mad cause he has to suck the Klitschko d*ck for $10K a pop making appearances at everyone of their fights - what, your grills ain't selling George?

Oh and your son sucks at boxing...

Everyone jealous of the Klitschkos, just cause Wlad doesn't want his brain to turn to mush for your entertainment, like Ali did, doesn't mean he is "afraid to get hit". It's boxing, you hit and don't get hit, that's the object, not to trade punches like two bums (Ali and Foreman) to see who would fall down first.

Wlad is one dimensional, and has a ****ty chin... You honestly think he would beat any top HW of the past? Who is his best win? What has that best win ever done in the sport?

Foreman would 1 punch Ko Wlad. It would be funny.