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  • VERILY
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    #1

    Commentators comparing fights to other (classic) fights;

    Does this bug anyone else here or strike them as really unnecessary most of the time?



    I was just re-watching the Israel Vazquez vs. Jhonny Gonzalez fight from a few years back, when Lampley's commentary after the towel was thrown in with a minute left in the 10th,


    "Chavez Taylor all over!!"

    (umm, no, Jim),


    reminded me of something irritating about last weekend's Rios-Antillon coverage - specifically, Al Bernstein (IIRC) referencing Corrales-Castillo all of about 60 seconds into the fight (if it was actually 120 seconds, forgive me, I haven't seen the fight for a few days).



    I mean, does anyone else find this to be really lazy commentary first off? And besides that, when this era's great fights happen, won't they be able to stand alone without need to be generically compared to some other barnburner from years ago?

    I can understand comparison in certain cases, but the Lampley screeching about an old fight to which the fight he just called bore no uncanny resemblance bull**** (I'm sorry, 'stylist gets worn down and stopped late by come-forward Mexican puncher' is too common a scenario to justify the Chavez-Taylor reference) and the gratuitous, "let's mention Corrales-Castillo everytime 2 Mexicans have a toe-to-toe tear up on Showtime" bull**** is just annoying and unnecessary.



    I'm certain there've been a ton of other instances in recent memory, but I can't summon them right now. NVM, point made, vent over.
    Last edited by VERILY; 07-15-2011, 12:11 AM.
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    #2
    It does seem tedious and often an overplayed tag, sometimes, but in some instances references to previous wars are somewhat fitting.

    Al Bernstein is a notorious repeat offender; I've heard him refer to Corrales-Castillo on numerous occasions eg. Kelly Pavlik vs Miguel Espino. It seems anytime two fighters decide to trade blow-after-blow on the inside he needs to refer to Corrales-Castillo as if that's the only fight in history in which two fighters stood toe-to-toe and traded fierce shots on the inside.

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    • VERILY
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      #3
      Originally posted by IRISH LULLABY
      It does seem tedious and often an overplayed tag, sometimes, but in some instances references to previous wars are somewhat fitting.

      Al Bernstein is a notorious repeat offender; I've heard him refer to Corrales-Castillo on numerous occasions eg. Kelly Pavlik vs Miguel Espino. It seems anytime two fighters decide to trade blow-after-blow on the inside he needs to refer to Corrales-Castillo as if that's the only fight in history in which two fighters stood toe-to-toe and traded fierce shots on the inside.
      Exactly.

      When it's apropos, call it. But these guys are just doing it for the sake of it anymore and it 1.) takes any meaning out of the reference due to overplay and 2.) turns the commentary to Clichéville.

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      • VERILY
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        Just re-watched De La Hoya-Quartey, noticed another.



        Trampley, "It's Leonard-Hearns all over!"



        Why?? 'Cause he's whooping him up against the ropes late in the fight?



        STFU, you flatulent, corny old drunkard.

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        • junior gong
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          Yeah, it kind of throws you of for a second as you think 'hang on...wtf?'. Slightly different, but Teddy Atlas had a moment during the Wolak-Rodriguez fight yesterday when he started saying some **** about 'if David Haye fought like these guys he would be HW champion of the world'. I am not a commentator, but I figure that they just speak without thinking or get in a muddle, either way its strange/amusing.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            It's incrediblely annoying.

            Bad commenatary in general I find immensely annoying. Usually, I can't go an entire fight on Sky without telling Jim Watt to shut the **** up. Even it's a 3-4 round fight.

            In thier defence, the British Commentary aren't as bad as the Americans for the whole 'refer to a random' fight ****.

            I mean, sometimes it is quite literally nothing like the fight/fighter they are comparing the fight/fighter with.

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            • Medved
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              #7
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              It's incrediblely annoying.

              Bad commenatary in general I find immensely annoying. Usually, I can't go an entire fight on Sky without telling Jim Watt to shut the **** up. Even it's a 3-4 round fight.

              In thier defence, the British Commentary aren't as bad as the Americans for the whole 'refer to a random' fight ****.

              I mean, sometimes it is quite literally nothing like the fight/fighter they are comparing the fight/fighter with.
              Yo, Jim Watt's is the biggest **** ever, I usually watch a foreign language stream if Its only Sky Sports doing the event.

              Dude is the biggest biased **** and he has the ugliest voice and he talks FULL CRAP, god I hate Jim Watts, I can understand the other 2 blokes even tho they have UK Fighter's balls in their mouth all the time but thats to be expected, but Jim Watts takes it to a whole new lvl.

              and Teddy Atlas is another ****, he finds a way every week to bash Klitschko's, was telling Wolak and Delvin that if they gained 80lb they would beat the Klitschkos.

              I think Teddy is so angry because he is a closet ****sexual and he wants to be 'fabulous

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                #8
                Originally posted by Medved
                Yo, Jim Watt's is the biggest **** ever, I usually watch a foreign language stream if Its only Sky Sports doing the event.

                Dude is the biggest biased **** and he has the ugliest voice and he talks FULL CRAP, god I hate Jim Watts, I can understand the other 2 blokes even tho they have UK Fighter's balls in their mouth all the time but thats to be expected, but Jim Watts takes it to a whole new lvl.

                and Teddy Atlas is another ****, he finds a way every week to bash Klitschko's, was telling Wolak and Delvin that if they gained 80lb they would beat the Klitschkos.

                I think Teddy is so angry because he is a closet ****sexual and he wants to be 'fabulous
                In term of being biased, John Rawling or whatever is name is is by far the worst.

                His performance in the Haye-Klitschko fight was shocking. Every time Haye threw a punch that almost landed he would piss his pants, even if it missed he would scream at the top of his lungs.

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                • VERILY
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                  Watt is a bugbear of mine - can't stand the screeching wee elf, wish Aaron Pryor had gotten a chance to punch his head in BITD.


                  Sky's boxing team is utterly rotten from the anchorman forward - how about that Dave Clark's mannerisms and his rancid bulldog-pride,

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Adam Konitz
                    Watt is a bugbear of mine - can't stand the screeching wee elf, wish Aaron Pryor had gotten a chance to punch his head in BITD.


                    Sky's boxing team is utterly rotten from the anchorman forward - how about that Dave Clark's mannerisms and his rancid bulldog-pride,
                    Dave Clark also knows pretty much nothing about Boxing, at all.

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