I have some interesting scores for the Lara-Williams fight

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  • -Kev-
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    #1

    I have some interesting scores for the Lara-Williams fight

    First of all let me start out that, ultimately, I thought Lara won.

    Watching the fight again, I noticed how pathetic the HBO crew were acting towards Williams.

    First time I saw the fight, I let the people around me, the HBO commentators, the fans saying ooh aah, all influence my first scorecard that now seems laughable to myself, 10-2 Lara.

    I watched the fight again with commentary and scored it while having Williams in my head as this evil robber[thanks to HBO crew for this], and I was giving the benefit of the doubt to Lara. And here are my scorecards with some rounds having a little explanation as to why I gave it to the certain fighter, that I actually typed right after each round.

    1. Lara

    2. Williams - Gave it to Lara the first time in my 10-2 Lara scorecard.

    3. Lara - Close round

    4. Williams - Close round

    5. Williams

    6. Williams

    7. Lara - Williams takes 1 billion left hand bombs. Lara gets a second wind,
    starts to box. Looks more elusive.

    8. Williams - Watched this round twice for good measure. Williams body punching was really good in this round; Lara caught Williams with 4-5 clean punches, Williams ultimately outlands him.

    9. Lara - Again, using his legs, becomes more elusive, starts boxing more. Left hand after left hand in this round.

    10. Williams - I watched this round twice, because it was so close. But the second time around Williams body punching and inside fighting was evident.

    11. Lara - Close round. Williams threw more, Lara held a lot. Again, a few left hands from Lara, had the HBO crew going crazy, but ignoring the Williams body punching.

    12. Williams

    7-5 Williams


    Here's my second scorecard and the scorecard which I am the most comfortable with and actually watched the fight very relaxed without listening to those idiots talking down to a fighter like that. Had the whole thing mute, this was the last time I re-watched it. In this one I give no explanations as to why I gave the round to the certain fighter. L=Lara, W=Williams.

    1. L
    2. W
    3. L
    4. L
    5. W
    6. W
    7. L
    8. W
    9. L
    10. W
    11. L
    12. L

    Winner 7-5 Lara

    As you can see, after I scored the fight 10-2, I got 7-5 Williams and then 7-5 Lara, and realized just how close this fight was, and how horrible the HBO crew treated Williams, verbally.

    Williams should not retire, but Lara won this fight. 7-5 Lara is my final score and I urge all of you guys out there to re watch it and score the fight with a leveled head, don't let the HBO commentators get to your head. Watching the fight in mute relaxed me so much, I was really in to the fight and actually felt like I gave rounds based on what I saw not on what I was influenced by. Still, Erislandy Lara came out on top in the end after watching the fight 3 times.
  • Tha_Greatest
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    #2
    if you cant score it right the first time, you shouldnt score the fight at all so you might score it 12 rounds to 0 in favor of williams or lara, lol, you sukk at scoring lil homie, i dont ever want you to score a fight again or tell your scores cause you are a pathetic god awful scorer, lol, nyahahahahaha paul williams and lara both are gay but williams is a bum who should retire cause he almost died in the ring last night, lol, nyahahaha

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    • BG_Knocc_Out
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      #3
      I agree. the fight was a lot closer than people made it out to be. I still think Lara won.

      I think there's one thing people don't understand is that Williams certainly became accustomed to Lara's left, so comfortably that he was taking it very well (aside from 3-4 times). People over-exaggerated the majority of the time that punch landed, although I still believe it as being the biggest factor in the fight for Lara's win.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #4
        It was close for six rounds. I had it 3-3 at that point. From then on Lara absolutely crushed Williams, and it wasn't close. I don't think I gave Paul another round.

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        • Rome-By-Ko
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          #5
          I watch the fight twice(not easy to do I might add)and both times I had Paul winning 4 rds..Sorry but he was beat up and HBO had a right to say what they said because it was what I was thinking watching that fight..I had a bunch of casual fans at the house and everyone in my house felt he was in danger before the HBO crew said it..Rios Ant was a toe to toe war and no one felt that way about that fight at all..

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          • Walt Liquor
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            #6
            I gave 3,4,5,10,12 to pwilly, the first time. After rd 9 oj tye secojd watch, i deleted it from my dvr.

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            • b0ndsj0ns20
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              #7
              In person I thought it was about 8-4 Lara and then I watched it again and still thought it was 8-4 with a couple of rounds that could have gone either way. I could see a reasonable person going 10-2 and I could see one going 7-5 Lara. As much as I wanted PW to win I can't reasonably say he did win. I agree that the HBO crew was making it sound like he was taking the worst beating in the history of boxing, and while it was bad it wasn't to the level that he was about to die right there in the ring like they made it sound.

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              • Joe2608
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                #8
                Don't know how you can score a fight that differently every time you watch it when it's exactly the same fight, you must be really influenced by what you hear.

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                • b0ndsj0ns20
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joe2608
                  Don't know how you can score a fight that differently every time you watch it when it's exactly the same fight, you must be really influenced by what you hear.
                  Normally I would say you are right, but after finally sitting down and watching it on TV last night past round 6 the HBO crew had decided PW was completely washed up and did nothing but bad mouth him, and never mentioned that some of those rounds were actually close. If you didn't watch really closely and just listened to them basically say PW was taking the worst beating in the history of boxing it could affect how you scored the round. All that said he still lost the fight on my card 8-4 in person and 8-4 watching it on TV.

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                  • King Kong
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    First of all let me start out that, ultimately, I thought Lara won.

                    Watching the fight again, I noticed how pathetic the HBO crew were acting towards Williams.

                    First time I saw the fight, I let the people around me, the HBO commentators, the fans saying ooh aah, all influence my first scorecard that now seems laughable to myself, 10-2 Lara.

                    I watched the fight again with commentary and scored it while having Williams in my head as this evil robber[thanks to HBO crew for this], and I was giving the benefit of the doubt to Lara. And here are my scorecards with some rounds having a little explanation as to why I gave it to the certain fighter, that I actually typed right after each round.

                    1. Lara

                    2. Williams - Gave it to Lara the first time in my 10-2 Lara scorecard.

                    3. Lara - Close round

                    4. Williams - Close round

                    5. Williams

                    6. Williams

                    7. Lara - Williams takes 1 billion left hand bombs. Lara gets a second wind,
                    starts to box. Looks more elusive.

                    8. Williams - Watched this round twice for good measure. Williams body punching was really good in this round; Lara caught Williams with 4-5 clean punches, Williams ultimately outlands him.

                    9. Lara - Again, using his legs, becomes more elusive, starts boxing more. Left hand after left hand in this round.

                    10. Williams - I watched this round twice, because it was so close. But the second time around Williams body punching and inside fighting was evident.

                    11. Lara - Close round. Williams threw more, Lara held a lot. Again, a few left hands from Lara, had the HBO crew going crazy, but ignoring the Williams body punching.

                    12. Williams

                    7-5 Williams


                    Here's my second scorecard and the scorecard which I am the most comfortable with and actually watched the fight very relaxed without listening to those idiots talking down to a fighter like that. Had the whole thing mute, this was the last time I re-watched it. In this one I give no explanations as to why I gave the round to the certain fighter. L=Lara, W=Williams.

                    1. L
                    2. W
                    3. L
                    4. L
                    5. W
                    6. W
                    7. L
                    8. W
                    9. L
                    10. W
                    11. L
                    12. L

                    Winner 7-5 Lara

                    As you can see, after I scored the fight 10-2, I got 7-5 Williams and then 7-5 Lara, and realized just how close this fight was, and how horrible the HBO crew treated Williams, verbally.

                    Williams should not retire, but Lara won this fight. 7-5 Lara is my final score and I urge all of you guys out there to re watch it and score the fight with a leveled head, don't let the HBO commentators get to your head. Watching the fight in mute relaxed me so much, I was really in to the fight and actually felt like I gave rounds based on what I saw not on what I was influenced by. Still, Erislandy Lara came out on top in the end after watching the fight 3 times.
                    Nice breakdown.

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