Comments Thread For: Arum: We Would Use WADA For Mayweather-Pacquiao

[dldwizard]

never disapprove..? they've been fighting with usada from the first negotiation.. bringing in other experts to counter the claims of usada and now you're saying 'never disapprove'.. the heck?

now that pac have agreed on everything.. even to propose to have WADA oversee the testing.. this is the same WADA of which standards usada adheres to.. *****s still won't be satisfied and still keep on bltching.. and all pac and co. wanted is another firm that they don't perceive to be based for the mayweather doing the drug testing with WADA oversight.. and still the whining from *****s keep on coming.. on to think, it have been reported that...

USADA DOESN'T DO THE TESTING THEMSELVES..

they just relegate the testing to WADA-certified labs... so what is the problem with cutting off the middleman.. go straight to WADA.. let them select an impartial testing firm that both camp would agree.. and let's get this fskcing fantasy fight signed on..

[tatangb45]

From reading some of these rebuttals, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sad state of our educational system. Please, for the love of God tell me you live in the Philippines or another 3rd world country. At least then u might have some small excuse.

Perfect analogy Einstein. Compare a situation, where the world had almost no access to a weapons program and a dictator and his cronies possibly doing everything to hide whether they had WMD's, to a negotiation where everything, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED TESTING INSTITUTION is laid right out in front of u and spelled out in black and white. Get it? It has never been a secret that USADA was the proposed testing institution and Arum, Manny, Roach, nor Kroch have never even whispered one word about disapproving of it. All of the sudden, once they are supposedly and finally agreeing, now, they make objections. If u don't see the problem and can't admit that it's very fishy, then you Sir, are a moron to the nth degree and shouldn't be trying to form a debate on this or any other forum.

People make mistakes all the time. There are no perfect lawyers. You are assuming too much about something you do not have an inkling as to what happened. Somebody asked why Arum did not mention a problem with USADA in the earlier negotiations and I gave a couple of possible answers. I clearly specified, POSSIBLE. Then you come along and insist that Arum is too smart of a lawyer to not figure that out. How in heavens are you positive about that? The guy is what, almost eighty years old? Before you start blabbering and gloating like a fool, be sure your argument is full proof.

[ALG United]

It's f****in hilarious, you *****S should all be glad that WADA itself is gonna supervise the OSDT on both camps!!! Coz in reality if it's the other way around, USADA will only have jurisdiction solely over Floyd's OSDT, while Manny will be handled by PSC while he's still training in PI, and you all will pronounced cheating by then... So now it is better that only one independent international neutral anti-doping agency is gonna handle the job for both fighters.. This is much much BETTER!!!!

[LeadUppercut]

im pretty sure arum means he wants the IOC who works with wada, proper guys that do the international testing.

The IOC entrust that responsibility to the authorised national authority.

In the USA that authority is USADA.....
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/conte...03b3b13f003e67

[WESS]

It's f****in hilarious, you *****S should all be glad that WADA itself is gonna supervise the OSDT on both camps!!! Coz in reality if it's the other way around, USADA will only have jurisdiction solely over Floyd's OSDT, while Manny will be handled by PSC while he's still training in PI, and you all will pronounced cheating by then... So now it is better that only one independent international neutral anti-doping agency is gonna handle the job for both fighters.. This is much much BETTER!!!!

Awesome isn't it! So the fight can actually get made now. At least we ALL can come to an agreement that the fight was held up for this long because Bob/Pac had issues with testing.

I assume MANY MANY logical people like yourself would retract the negative comments towards Floyd's behalf for the fight not taking place because as stated before, one can not fully agree to testing and blame the other for the fight not being made when one still has issues from the get go.

In this case, Bob is describing the USADA as being "biased" (can you say lawsuit?), which if that is genuinely how Bob/Pac feel towards this US organization that has the same standards as WADA than like said before, the fight was and always been held up on behalf of Team Pac not agreeing to testing as they kept saying. They lied.

At least the truth has come out and we all know they FINALLY agreed, now Bob/Team Pac needs to put that in writing as I'm sure you understand that words don't mean shyt in a business especially one who's a self admitted liar.

[tatangb45]

From reading some of these rebuttals, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the sad state of our educational system. Please, for the love of God tell me you live in the Philippines or another 3rd world country. At least then u might have some small excuse.

Perfect analogy Einstein. Compare a situation, where the world had almost no access to a weapons program and a dictator and his cronies possibly doing everything to hide whether they had WMD's, to a negotiation where everything, INCLUDING THE PROPOSED TESTING INSTITUTION is laid right out in front of u and spelled out in black and white. Get it? It has never been a secret that USADA was the proposed testing institution and Arum, Manny, Roach, nor Kroch have never even whispered one word about disapproving of it. All of the sudden, once they are supposedly and finally agreeing, now, they make objections. If u don't see the problem and can't admit that it's very fishy, then you Sir, are a moron to the nth degree and shouldn't be trying to form a debate on this or any other forum.

Your objection to Arum's wanting the IOC/WADA to oversee the testing makes no sense at all. For somebody who think of himself as smart, you are showing exactly the opposite. Give one credible reason as to why you are oppose to Arum's proposal. This proposal satisfies Floyd's demand and erases Arum's doubt of the USADA's partiality. It could finally resolve the testing issue. So what more do you want?

[LeadUppercut]

The notion that USADA is not the very best available option, is absurd.

You fanboys are clowns for acceptiing Arum's rubbish.

Especially since there is no other leading authority, let alone " gold standard ".

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Team Pacquiao's big ol' bag of ridiculous excuses.....

* " I dont like needles "

* " taking my blood the day before the fight will weaken me "

* " I am too proud to take the test "

* " Floyd is not the commission "

* " taking my blood will affect my training, even 23-days from the fight "

* " I feel too disrespected to take the test "

* " he is bigger than me, so it will weaken me, more than him "

* " USADA are corrupt "

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And after the Mayweather/Ortiz fight, there will be another excuse.....

[davidoff]

This is good to hear. It meets the protocols and will be random.

Now lets put all the fangirls aside and make the fight happen.

[davidoff]

This is good to hear. It meets the protocols and will be random.

Now lets put all the fangirls aside and make the fight happen.

[tatangb45]

Awesome isn't it! So the fight can actually get made now. At least we ALL can come to an agreement that the fight was held up for this long because Bob/Pac had issues with testing.

I assume MANY MANY logical people like yourself would retract the negative comments towards Floyd's behalf for the fight not taking place because as stated before, one can not fully agree to testing and blame the other for the fight not being made when one still has issues from the get go.

In this case, Bob is describing the USADA as being "biased" (can you say lawsuit?), which if that is genuinely how Bob/Pac feel towards this US organization that has the same standards as WADA than like said before, the fight was and always been held up on behalf of Team Pac not agreeing to testing as they kept saying. They lied.

At least the truth has come out and we all know they FINALLY agreed, now Bob/Team Pac needs to put that in writing as I'm sure you understand that words don't mean shyt in a business especially one who's a self admitted liar.

Changing their stance in order to make the fight happen does not in any way constitute lying. It is actually giving concession to make the fight happen as against a hardline position of "either my way or the highway".