Comments Thread For: Arum: We Would Use WADA For Mayweather-Pacquiao

[tatangb45]

I don't have any problems with the IOC/WADA overseeing it. I don't care who does, as long as its fair and it gets the fight done. My problem is that there are so many Pac fans that will yell "coward and duck" when it comes to floyd while having A LOT less proof, but when logical arguments on how the Pac team wasn't making these issues, while claiming that they already agreed to OST(depending on which answer they wanted to give on any particular day) and Pac is given a pass again. The stance then is "well, the fight will get done now, so be happy". If this was Floyd putting up road blocks or "moving the goal post", he is called a coward, whether he has good reason to or not. Fair is fair, if people are gonna say these things about Floyd, then they most certainly should be said about Pac as well.

Read your own post and see what you have just stated.
It is not only Pac fans who call Floyd a coward. So many writers and media people have called him a coward. HE IS A COWARD! His pattern of evading so many top contenders in so many years, using so many excuses is a definite sign of cowardice. Only blind fools and Floyd fanatics would not see that!
Then you implied that accepting Floyd's demand but using the higher authority to implement this demand is a road block? Or the equivalent to moving the goal post? Any objective person would see this as a move towards the goal post. And only a twisted mind with twisted logic would make the opposite assertion.

[tatangb45]

The whole reason that this is happening is because of the "either my way or the highway" mentality of Pac's team. Floyd asked for OST from day 1 and what did they say originally? "Sure, no problem anytime". Then it started moving away from 0 days and gradually moved up to 30 days, meanwhile using an abundance of excuses. Only moving to 24 days after they were caught lying about when they are able to take blood. FLoyd from 0 to 14 days to get the fight done. Pac moved from 0 to 30 to 24. Did u praise on him moving from his hardline position then? Did you chastise Pac? Pac and team were then caught lying again about the 14 days and Floyd said forget it, now its zero days. Can you blame him? They were lying and trying to make him look like he was the one that didn't want the fight, when all they had to do was meet in the middle. Pac's team stuck to their hardline stance and have so until finally agreeing recently. Pac shouldn't be praised for 2 years later doing exactly what they said he would do in the beginning.

Let's not forget, the ONLY reason everyone isn't talking about the CRAZY, unprecedented 10mil per lb penalty for the 2 years is because FMJ accepted that demand from Pac. The reason we are talking about the OST is because Pac did not.

Once more you have exhibited a lack of analytical thought process.
Giving concessions, however small, towards closing the gap between two opposing views, is not in any sense an "either my way or the highway" position. Giving a concession but taking it back and refusing to budge when that concession is accepted, is.

To equate the 10m/lb. penalty as equal to a demand for OST shows again the lack of perspective.
The inclusion of the penalty was promulgated by (1)a definitive proof of one party's disregard in honoring an agreement(as in the Marquez case), and (2) Floyd's initial demand to have the fight at 154lbs. using 10 oz. gloves. Had the penalty been minimal, Floyd could come in over 147 lbs., pay the penalty, and the fight would proceed with Floyd having a big weight advantage, 2 inch height advantage and a five inch reach advantage. If that is not a cowardly move, then how could anyone describe it differently?
On the other hand, the demand for an OST was made without any shred of evidence, to a boxer who has previously shown to have a phobia to blood letting close to the fight, and by somebody who never demanded the same condition in all of his previous fights.

[LeadUppercut]

Your assertion that the USADA is the best agency to do the testing and Arum' opposition to it because of his doubts, can be debated till kingdom come, but nothing will come out of it. It is a pointless argument and achieves no purpose. The fact is, acceptance of Arum's proposal brings the fight closer to fruition. And that is where the emphasis should be.

You are being ignorant.

Arum's opposition to USADA is OBVIOUSLY a completely unnecessary roadblock. It amuses me that Bob Arum can p1ss in your pocket, laugh, and then look you in the eye and tell you that its raining.

[AFighter4U]

You are being ignorant.

Arum's opposition to USADA is OBVIOUSLY a completely unnecessary roadblock. It amuses me that Bob Arum can p1ss in your pocket, laugh, and then look you in the eye and tell you that its raining.

true, arum's opposition to USADA is an unnecessary roadblock.

but it is a roadblock that can easily be dealt with by Golden Boy should they choose to do so. i seriously doubt if USADA is the ONLY organization with the capacity to conduct these tests.

i'm sure it isn't beyond WADA's capacity to authorize another organization to conduct the tests.

[tatangb45]

You are being ignorant.

Arum's opposition to USADA is OBVIOUSLY a completely unnecessary roadblock. It amuses me that Bob Arum can p1ss in your pocket, laugh, and then look you in the eye and tell you that its raining.

Explain in clear and sensible way why asking for the higher authority to supervise the testing is a road block. And it better be good.

[AFighter4U]

Explain in clear and sensible way why asking for the higher authority to supervise the testing is a road block. And it better be good.

good point.

[LeadUppercut]

Explain in clear and sensible way why asking for the higher authority to supervise the testing is a road block. And it better be good.

I so badly want to slap you and call you a dishonest pig-ignorant ****.

Lucky that I am well-behaved.

Give yourself an uppercut kid, only fkn idiots and pac-fans accept Arums ****.

Afighter4U can see that this is a COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY roadblock, so why cant you, ya fkn genius? Let me answer that question for you..... you are not a boxing fan, you are a Manny fan, so you dont give a ****.

Congratulations for that

FACT:
* Mayweather took the test, he is clean, and he got paid
* Shane Mosley took the test, he is clean, and he got paid
* Victor Ortiz will take the test, he will be clean, and he will get paid
* Martinez would take the test, he would be clean, and he would get paid
* Williams would take the test, he would be clean, and he would get paid
* Manny.....

Like I said, congratulations man, you win

Ya fkn moron, the test does not seem to be a problem for anyone else.

Tell me, when I add that ridiculous excuse, to the already significant list of previous excuses supplied by Team Pacquiao, you still wont click, will you?

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Team Pacquiao's big ol' bag of ridiculous excuses.....

* I dont like needles

* taking my blood the day before the fight will weaken me

* I am too proud to take the test

* Floyd is not the commission

* taking my blood will affect my training, even 23-days from the fight

* I feel too disrespected to take the test

* he is bigger than me, so it will weaken me, more than him

* USADA are corrupt

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Wake up man, you are being a naive flag-waving fanboy.

[ThePrince]

A) This fight will never and was never going to happen.

B) It would take 30 minutes to come to a compromise over the agency, the IWGA could easily conduct the tests.

C) WADA and any other Olympic agency is not at all necessary. Nevada does random urine tests now and they could contract lab solutions (labcorp/quest diagnostics) to conduct random blood tests.

EASILY solved problem. Don't know why people are blowing this out of proportion.

[LeadUppercut]

FACT:
* USADA are the very best testing agents in the USA
* They are the " gold standard "
* They are without reproach, unlike Bob Arum
* They are without peer
* There is absolutely no reason at all for Bob Arum to discredit USADA
* USADA testing is fine for everybody else, Mayweather, Mosley, Ortiz, Williams, Martinez, the entire 2012 Olympic squad etc..... just not for Manny

i'm sure it isn't beyond WADA's capacity to authorize another organization to conduct the tests.

Why should they ?

This " roadblock " is clearly rubbish.

Instead of accepting Bob Arum's " rubbish ", why cant you call him on it?

Why would you accept that ?

It is clearly obvious what Arum is up to.

If all pac-fans demanded that Manny take that completely harmless blood test, and then demand that he stop fighting worn-out old men, maybe I would still be a fan?

[LeadUppercut]

A) This fight will never and was never going to happen.

B) It would take 30 minutes to come to a compromise over the agency, the IWGA could easily conduct the tests.

C) WADA and any other Olympic agency is not at all necessary. Nevada does random urine tests now and they could contract lab solutions (labcorp/quest diagnostics) to conduct random blood tests.

EASILY solved problem. Don't know why people are blowing this out of proportion.

*** you're an ignorant ****.

How about.....

D) take the COMPLETELY HARMLESS blood test

E) take the USADA tests, Bob Arum's excuse is CLEARLY bull****, to everyone except pig-ignorant flag-waving fanboys..... like you.

You say that.....
" A) This fight will never and was never going to happen. "

Tell me why you think that is ?

This'll be funny.....