What's a concession from Mayweather

[Dynamite Kid]

The fact he's willing to allow a weight penalty, or the fact that the weight pen is so much? Lets say Manny asks for a weight pen, but its not a significant amount, is that a concession by Mayweather, and equal enough, for him to be allowed to drop a OST on Manny?

Cause I get the impression, Mayweather is looking as though he's making a concession by the amount of the penalty that he's willing to pay, only I see that as something that's only being agreed to, cause its so relevant to 100% stop Mayweather from cheating the weight, as he's done it before, so to me, his concession, is not equal to an OST. The ONLY reason Mayweather has had to agree to such a significant amount, is cause 1, he cant drop his bombshell without conceding that, 2, he has cheated the weight before, so you have to put a severe penalty in place, so he doesn't cheat, so he doesn't take the chance he can afford the penalty, which is what happened when he cheated Marquez, he knew he could afford to cheat the weight, and so did it, the 10 mil makes it almost impossible for him to do that, so the amount is not a concession in my eyes, its a default safety mechanism.

If Floyd says, Ima drop the OST on you if I agree to your weight penalty demands, do you think Manny would go for it, and that he would think its an equal swap deal, concession wise, when Mayweather actually has cheated the weight before by easily having enough money to cover the penalty?

[Tamis!]

To me I wouldn't mind Floyd weighing more than Pac on weigh day or fight night, coz he'd still pick his head up from the 10th row in rd. 2 if ever they fight no matter what the weight is.

[Phil Ivey]

Mayweather went over in weight @ 146... he's never been over the 147 limit when contracted @ 147.. Obviously the 10mill per lbs over 147 is not an issue with him since he agreed without any hassles.

[daggum]

mayweather is a proven cheat so of course the 10 million a pound penalty was a must. something has to be done to stop him from blatantly cheating to gain an advantage like he did against marquez. mayweather was so brazen he didn't even attempt to make 144. he knew he was gonna cheat long before the weigh in ever took place. does anyone doubt if they didn't have that term in place mayweather would come in over again? this guy will do everything he can to make sure he wins. xylocaine, come in overweight, duck dangerous fighters, but never ped's of course. that would be wrong. thank god he has year round testing to stop him from doing that...........

[Specialist6]

The fact he's willing to allow a weight penalty, or the fact that the weight pen is so much? Lets say Manny asks for a weight pen, but its not a significant amount, is that a concession by Mayweather, and equal enough, for him to be allowed to drop a OST on Manny?

Cause I get the impression, Mayweather is looking as though he's making a concession by the amount of the penalty that he's willing to pay, only I see that as something that's only being agreed to, cause its so relevant to 100% stop Mayweather from cheating the weight, as he's done it before, so to me, his concession, is not equal to an OST. The ONLY reason Mayweather has had to agree to such a significant amount, is cause 1, he cant drop his bombshell without conceding that, 2, he has cheated the weight before, so you have to put a severe penalty in place, so he doesn't cheat, so he doesn't take the chance he can afford the penalty, which is what happened when he cheated Marquez, he knew he could afford to cheat the weight, and so did it, the 10 mil makes it almost impossible for him to do that, so the amount is not a concession in my eyes, its a default safety mechanism.

If Floyd says, Ima drop the OST on you if I agree to your weight penalty demands, do you think Manny would go for it, and that he would think its an equal swap deal, concession wise, when Mayweather actually has cheated the weight before by easily having enough money to cover the penalty?

But mayweather only "cheated" when he was suppose to fight marquez at 145 and came in 147 so why would may come into a fight higher than 147. And 2 pounds aint no damn cheating he beat marquez with skill not with his size. But yall praise pac when he beats people 20 pounds heavier than him smh stop with the double standard people it doesnt look good:wank:

[Specialist6]

Mayweather went over in weight @ 146... he's never been over the 147 limit when contracted @ 147.. Obviously the 10mill per lbs over 147 is not an issue with him since he agreed without any hassles.

Thank you somebody who knows boxing

[IMDAZED]

Thank you somebody who knows boxing

Yup - when you know it shouldn't be a problem, you have no issues agreeing.

[IronDanHamza]

Why not just both fighters accept the simple demands being asked for them?

[deejd]

The fact he's willing to allow a weight penalty, or the fact that the weight pen is so much? Lets say Manny asks for a weight pen, but its not a significant amount, is that a concession by Mayweather, and equal enough, for him to be allowed to drop a OST on Manny?

Cause I get the impression, Mayweather is looking as though he's making a concession by the amount of the penalty that he's willing to pay, only I see that as something that's only being agreed to, cause its so relevant to 100% stop Mayweather from cheating the weight, as he's done it before, so to me, his concession, is not equal to an OST. The ONLY reason Mayweather has had to agree to such a significant amount, is cause 1, he cant drop his bombshell without conceding that, 2, he has cheated the weight before, so you have to put a severe penalty in place, so he doesn't cheat, so he doesn't take the chance he can afford the penalty, which is what happened when he cheated Marquez, he knew he could afford to cheat the weight, and so did it, the 10 mil makes it almost impossible for him to do that, so the amount is not a concession in my eyes, its a default safety mechanism.

If Floyd says, Ima drop the OST on you if I agree to your weight penalty demands, do you think Manny would go for it, and that he would think its an equal swap deal, concession wise, when Mayweather actually has cheated the weight before by easily having enough money to cover the penalty?

You have to realize that Mayweather requested OST from the start... Pacquiao's side agreed.

Then Pacquiao requested the weight, gloves, and ring size. Mayweather agreed to everything. As their last demand, they requested the weight penalty. It just happened to be $10 million for every pound over. Mayweather accepted that with no hesitation as well.

After the scroll of demands was met, Pacquiao's side backtracked and said they would only go by commission rules for testing, released numerous excuses, and then tried to dictate cutoff dates for random testing.

The only one that seems to be flabbergasted and baffled over the weight penalty, is you. You've made two threads in the last 24 hours over 'what the big deal was over the weight penalty.' Not only has Mayweather never failed to make '47, but that amount for the penalty has never been requested in the history of the sport. It was a simple demand that was made for Mayweather to toss the fight, but he didn't. He met the concession, deal with it.