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  • Originally posted by flipbjefrox View Post
    Hopkins DID not accept Pascal's challenge. FACT
    This is not fantasy or what if... what happened is pascal challege hopkins to take the test and he didnt.

    How did hopkins gain 15 pounds of muscles in 6 months?
    Hopkins had 2 wks notice and its obvious it was a Pascal ploy , Pac has had 3 yrs and is still playing tiptoe Tom with testing ,,,,, 15 lbs on a MW goes on overnight fuk you dumb prick , like I said fanboy leave your mums computer and go into a boxing gym because your an ignorant fanboy that has no clue about boxing ,,,, your boy is in the hot oil buddy and he is getting cooked , deal with it because the heats being turned up and he is being exposed for the hype job he is .

    Statement of the Decade by Bob Arum
    " What happens if Manny tests positive "

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    • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
      Hopkins had 2 wks notice and its obvious it was a Pascal ploy , Pac has had 3 yrs and is still playing tiptoe Tom with testing ,,,,, 15 lbs on a MW goes on overnight fuk you dumb prick , like I said fanboy leave your mums computer and go into a boxing gym because your an ignorant fanboy that has no clue about boxing ,,,, your boy is in the hot oil buddy and he is getting cooked , deal with it because the heats being turned up and he is being exposed for the hype job he is .

      Statement of the Decade by Bob Arum
      " What happens if Manny tests positive "
      Hmmm so 15 pounds of muscles can be grown overnight what kind of drugs is hopkins takin i wanna gain 15 pound of muscles overnight. But hopkins said he's willing to take the test. whether it's 3 yr or 2 weeks it shouldnt matter. random is random. beside what's a little blood unless u got something to hide right.

      Marion Jones, Shane Mosley, Barry Bonds, And........................................



      Bernard Hopkins

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      • Originally posted by uglypug View Post
        lol at people STILL trying to reason why hopkins gets a pass but not manny. . . "uhh, well hopkins lived a spartan lifestyle!" yeah, yeah! he's not "steroid" good! he's just "smart" good! wtf? ? ?

        if you talk **** about manny, u gotta talk **** about hopkins. . . BOTH of their successes have been achieved by hard work and dedication. . . until it's proved otherwise stfu and move on.
        The point is that poelpe are all about calling out one fighter because another fighter said so, but they don't care about the possibility of another fighter using PED's. Hopkins is just a very good example because of his ability to move up in weight and be so successful at such an advanced age for boxing. There isn't a shred of proof EITHER fighter has juiced and that just goes to show the double standard.

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        • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
          Hopkins was never on the hook while Manipulater is being lowered into the soup and the cheat dont like it , and neither do his fanboys , everybody is a cheat and corrupt except Manny and Arum buhahahahahaha .

          Hopkins like every other fighter in history would accept what Pac was asked under the same circumstances , thats the difference between a real champion and hyped created manipulating cheat , fancy CWing within your own division Pac is such a manipulator he dont fight fair fights !!
          Why is Hopkins or any other fighter not on the hook, because they haven't been specifically asked to take OST? You're a perfect example of the sheep who apply double standards for fighters. You refuse to question a 46 year old man who was able to improve after two poor showings against Jermain Taylor, move up in weight and fight at an elite level again. But Floyd says question a guy smack in his prime and you jump. Bahhhhahh!!

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          • Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            Why is Hopkins or any other fighter not on the hook, because they haven't been specifically asked to take OST? You're a perfect example of the sheep who apply double standards for fighters. You refuse to question a 46 year old man who was able to improve after two poor showings against Jermain Taylor, move up in weight and fight at an elite level again. But Floyd says question a guy smack in his prime and you jump. Bahhhhahh!!

            You answered your own question , Hopkins has never been asked to comply as a requirement in beginning negotiations to secure a huge fight , a big fight , remembering that Floyd Manny is the biggest fight in history , why do you fanboys blanket all situations when none are remotely close to the May Pac saga , thats what I dont like about fanboys they run around trying to spread bull**** that is a totally different set of circumstances and they do it to try and lose Pac amongst the waffle ,,,, well its not working Pac is in hot oil up to his flat head and he did it to himself by pu$$y footing around a PEDS test for 3 yrs like a cheat , if a huge fight was dropped and walked away from by any other fighter in the sport purely to duck a Peds test , fuk them too , but that has not happened " ITS ONLY PAC " that turned down 50 million for a PEDS test , he is the only fighter in history of the sport to refuse a test for 50 million dollars ,, fuk him , the catch weight chumps game is nearly up .

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            • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              You answered your own question , Hopkins has never been asked to comply as a requirement in beginning negotiations to secure a huge fight , a big fight , remembering that Floyd Manny is the biggest fight in history , why do you fanboys blanket all situations when none are remotely close to the May Pac saga , thats what I dont like about fanboys they run around trying to spread bull**** that is a totally different set of circumstances and they do it to try and lose Pac amongst the waffle ,,,, well its not working Pac is in hot oil up to his flat head and he did it to himself by pu$$y footing around a PEDS test for 3 yrs like a cheat , if a huge fight was dropped and walked away from by any other fighter in the sport purely to duck a Peds test , fuk them too , but that has not happened " ITS ONLY PAC " that turned down 50 million for a PEDS test , he is the only fighter in history of the sport to refuse a test for 50 million dollars ,, fuk him , the catch weight chumps game is nearly up .
              Hopkins was asked publically humiliated and then sued. could have ended it all with a simple test.

              Still havent answered how he gained 15 pounds in 6 months?

              Mosley, Bonds, Jones and Hopkins

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              • Originally posted by flipbjefrox View Post
                Hopkins was asked publically humiliated and then sued. could have ended it all with a simple test.

                Still havent answered how he gained 15 pounds in 6 months?

                Mosley, Bonds, Jones and Hopkins
                The difference is NO fighter in history would accept what was asked of BHop with 2 wks to go , and ALL fighters would accept what was put to Pac , all except the cheat that has ducked it for 3 years and now his promoter is asking what happens with a positive test , you lose sunshine and badly !!

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                • If Pascal asked for OST before the contracts were signed and Hopkins didn't accept, then he would deserve criticism...but after an agreement has been officially made, you can't go trying to change things.

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                  • Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                    The difference is NO fighter in history would accept what was asked of BHop with 2 wks to go , and ALL fighters would accept what was put to Pac , all except the cheat that has ducked it for 3 years and now his promoter is asking what happens with a positive test , you lose sunshine and badly !!

                    awwww how come he didnt volunteer? why is he suing instead of just proving it right there on the spot. Quit your double standard this is too easy. Again 15 pound of muscles in 6 months. U sure about no one would accept it? did u poll all fighters. After all these test are non intrusive. Why does it matter whether it's 9 months notice, 1 year notice, 2 weeks notice. A small sample of blood shouldnt affect a boxer's performance right? Unless of course you believe that a blood drawn close to the fight can affect boxer's performance

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                    • Originally posted by Heeb View Post
                      If Pascal asked for OST before the contracts were signed and Hopkins didn't accept, then he would deserve criticism...but after an agreement has been officially made, you can't go trying to change things.
                      but a simple blood sample would have shut pascal up and no doubt clears hopkins name. it's so simple to clear his name. he could have done it right there and then but he decided to sue instead.

                      Does having blood drawn so close to the fight weakens hopkins?
                      What's the matter of giving sample right there and then. Is it painful to pee on a cup?

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