Foreign boxers keep getting robbed on HBO!

[The Hammer]

When you tell the majority of people watching that what they know they just saw wasn't what they just saw, it's a robbery.

Kotelnik landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Alexander's face while he was unmarked, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

Matthysse landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Alexander's face while he was unmarked, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

Lara landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Williams' face while he was unmarked except for who lost on the cards; swelling caused by a clash of heads, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

People can rationalize and make excuses, but the fact is boxing is losing more fans forever EVERY time this happens.

Good post. Those three fights were definitely robberies, because there was a clear winner in each of them who lost on the scorecards.

[Jimbo16031992]

With the exception of the Lara fight, robbery is too strong a word for those decisions. We as fans use that word much too easy around here.

Martinez was robbed against Cintron.

[ChopperRead]

Good post. Those three fights were definitely robberies, because there was a clear winner in each of them who lost on the scorecards.

Cheers. What makes me laugh is there is always some Polyanna on here (or any other boxing forum) to say that such and such result "wasn't really a robbery" because of this detail or that detail.

Bull****.

Fans know a robbery when they see one. You feel like you've been punched in the gut, you feel nauseated, when these robberies occur. It is a terrible thing to do to a fighter and that's why it is such a major turnoff.

[The Hammer]

Does anybody else think showing those robberies on HBO hurts the ratings and the long-run popularity of boxing?

[uoykcuf]

Cuban Erislandy Lara

Argentian Lucas Matthysse (twice!)

Ukrainian Andreas Kotelnik

Argentinan Sergio Martinez

Mexican Daniel Ponce De Leon

German Sebastian Zbik

Anybody else see a pattern here? Have you ever seen an American boxer robbed on HBO?

Those poor guys needed a KO to win.

Lara was clearly robbed: Dan Goossen clearly paid off judges. This was an extremely one sided fight. This is the real definition of robbery.

Matthysse controlled the fight and landed the better shots in my opinion. Again I think crowd noises affected how the judges score it.

Kotelnik probably should have got the nod, but I could see how the crowd influenced the judges a bit.

Martinez was only robbed against Cintron, Martinez first fight against Williams was close.

I thought Daniel Ponce De Leon did enough to beat Broner, I also don't think HBO really cared because they wanted a rising young star so they probably were happy Ponce De Leon got cheated.

[THe TRiNiTY]

First of all, not all of those fights were necessarily out-right robberies. Still, it happens in all countries. The problem is that some countries do it more often than others.

Germany, as an example. But, still, it happens. Regardless, HBO has had a few fights that have had questionable outcomes. Still.... Trinidad-De La Hoya. Chavez-Whitaker. Big, American robberies in America.

Just happens.

[bojangles1987]

Cuban Erislandy Lara

Argentian Lucas Matthysse (twice!)

Ukrainian Andreas Kotelnik

Argentinan Sergio Martinez

Mexican Daniel Ponce De Leon

German Sebastian Zbik

Anybody else see a pattern here? Have you ever seen an American boxer robbed on HBO?

Those poor guys needed a KO to win.

Matthysse only got robbed once, and when did Martinez get robbed?

[uoykcuf]

Matthysse only got robbed once, and when did Martinez get robbed?

Martinez was robbed against Cintron. Clearly a win for Martinez, it should have never been considered a draw. Martinez beat Cintron twice. Martinez KO'd Cintron, and Martinez won a points decision over him.

[The Hammer]

Matthysse only got robbed once, and when did Martinez get robbed?

Martinez was robbed of a KO against Cintron and then of a decision win on the cards. His first fight with Williams was close - I thought he did enough to win it, but it wasn't a robbery.

Matthysse CLEARLY won against both Judah and Alexander. Both those results were robberies.

[VERILY]

I see you believe Williams deserved the decision over Lara:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493672

Anybody that scored the fight for Williams doesn't know much about boxing.

Mr. I Train Fighters is a fuckin' clown. Just sits on the forum sniffing his own farts and believing his own crap about how great he is and how much he knows, he'd suck his own schmekel if he could.


Back in reality, the schmuck's self-vaunted "knowledge" has been exposed so many times here it's not funny.