Foreign boxers keep getting robbed on HBO!

[The Hammer]

Uh so. That has nothing to do with believing HBO pays off guys to fix fights.

Thinking that tells the rest of us you are a strange man.

I never said "HBO pays off guys to fix fights". You're not intelligent enough to understand what I actually said, which was:

No, it's more likely because the rich, crooked promoters and managers like Al Haymon (who are influential enough to get their fighters on HBO) PAY OFF the judges to favor their "investments" - in other words, their boxers.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Cuban Erislandy Lara

Argentian Lucas Matthysse (twice!)

Ukrainian Andreas Kotelnik

Argentinan Sergio Martinez

Mexican Daniel Ponce De Leon

German Sebastian Zbik

Anybody else see a pattern here? Have you ever seen an American boxer robbed on HBO?

Those poor guys needed a KO to win.

With the exception of the Lara fight, robbery is too strong a word for those decisions. We as fans use that word much too easy around here.

[junior gong]

With the exception of the Lara fight, robbery is too strong a word for those decisions. We as fans use that word much too easy around here.

I think its pretty fair to call Kotelnik vs Alexander a robbery.

[johnm is...]

With the exception of the Lara fight, robbery is too strong a word for those decisions. We as fans use that word much too easy around here.

Thank God someone around here still has some sense.

People's idea of a robbery on NSB... "I scored it a draw! Can't believe they robbed ________ "

So silly.

[VERILY]

lol, conspiracy theory much?

Some things are just obvious and don't require a whole lot of theorizing to deduce.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I think its pretty fair to call Kotelnik vs Alexander a robbery.

I had him winning as well but it wasn't a robbery. Most fans are just that, "fans" that don't know much about boxing.

There are different things that judges look for in fights, some score it more for different reasons.

The Williams fight was a robbery no doubt, but the other fights were at least competitive.

[borikua]

I hope HBO and Showtime do the right thing and gives fights or TV dates to those who got robbed.

[borikua]

Judges from the Williams-Lara fight should be banned. **** them.

[The Hammer]

I had him winning as well but it wasn't a robbery. Most fans are just that, "fans" that don't know much about boxing.

I see you believe Williams deserved the decision over Lara:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493672

Anybody that scored the fight for Williams doesn't know much about boxing.

[ChopperRead]

With the exception of the Lara fight, robbery is too strong a word for those decisions. We as fans use that word much too easy around here.

When you tell the majority of people watching that what they know they just saw wasn't what they just saw, it's a robbery.

Kotelnik landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Alexander's face while he was unmarked, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

Matthysse landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Alexander's face while he was unmarked, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

Lara landed the clean, effective punches, busted up Williams' face while he was unmarked except for swelling caused by a clash of heads, and was also favored by the punch stats. Yet he lost.

Robbery

People can rationalize and make excuses, but the fact is boxing is losing more fans forever EVERY time this happens.