A Day When MMA Knocked Out Boxing

[jtiger777]

i can say this about MMA... the best fight the best no matter what!

[Medved]

UFC is full of lay and pray, I rather watch a match like Wlad-Haye where a KO is possible at any time than 2 dudes trying to lie on each other and hug it out.

70% of new UFC fighters are wrestlers who
1) throw a lame punch and bullrush for a takedown
2) throw a lame punch and try a takedown and hold on
3) hold person against a cage while not doing anything
4) try 30 takedowns in a round and get 2 and win the round by throwing no punches.

A striker can beat the **** out of a wrestler for 3 rounds but if a wrestler gets a Take down with 30 seconds left in each round he will win it, even if he doesnt throw anything.

MMA judging is screwed up and thats why you have idiots like

Rick Story (he got out-lnp by another lnp)
Jon Fitch (booooooooring)
Sean Sherk
Clay Guida
Tito Ortiz is GOAT LNP Champion
Antonio McKee
Gray Maynard
Sonnen
Hughes
GSP (Half time LNP master, half time karate kid)



This is how you can classify UFC Fighters:

1) Midgets like Faber and Cruz who will land 500 clean shots and not wobble each other and play karate kid for 5 rounds
2) Midgets who lay and pray for 3 rounds
3) Out of shape HW's who gas in the first 3 minutes
4) LNP HW's like Brock who are afraid to get hit in the face and run backwards when they feel a shot and instantly go to ground in first sign of trouble


Usually a fight goes like this: You will have a great fighter with great BJJ and Standup skills against some Division 1 wrestler who has spent 20 years hugging and sucking off men.

Fight starts:
00:05 Both Fighters feel each other out in middle of the ring
00:15 Striker lands a clean strike on Wrestler aka ****
00:20 Striker lands another clean strike on ****
00:21 **** bullrushes striker and holds on to him for dear life
00:30 **** somehow ends up on top, great time for ground and pound right?
01:00 Wrong! We are still on ground and **** is trying to get strikers pants off and hes not throwing any punches, ref is asking for Action but **** doesnt know how to throw a punch and he would rather hug the striker and hes getting an erection at this point
02:00 They stand them up because **** just wants to hug and kiss the striker without throwing a punch
02:15 Striker lands 3 clean punches
03:00 **** eats a punch and lunges for a single leg like a coward and is holding it like he would hold a giant ****, with both hands and for dear life
03:15 **** gets striker on the ground again and again he doesnt throw 1 punch.
04:30 **** tries a submission after Ref begging him to do something, submission fails horribly and **** goes back to fingering strikers ass so he has something to smell in the corner.

^ Thats how 90% of MMA fights go

[thebowtod]

It's more than styles, it has to do with entire cards and what they are giving the fans.

MMA delivers much more than boxing. In boxing we might see a card with 4-5 fights on it and only one will be worth watching. Boxing needs to put on good SHOWS. Have 4-5 good fights with good match ups not just propping one good fighter vs a bum all the time the way we see in Friday Night Fights.


I'm a boxing man but I can't lie, MMA has beaten boxing when it comes to making good shows, it's more **** for your buck.

in what way? the fights are alot shorter in ufc

[rocky_balboa23]

MMA is good but boxing is still god. i really thought MMA was the solution to boxing's lack of heavyweight classic fights but heavyweight boxing is still a class above the best MMA fight.

boxing is numero uno. MMA is a good scrap but wont replace boxing

[Medved]

and K-1/Its Showtime/DREAM events are 1000% better than any UFC show.

MMA is dying, the great MMA era was Pride with Goat Fedor/Mirko/Rampage/Wanderlei/Nog/Prime Shogun

Those were exciting times, knees to face, to grounded opponent, soccer stomps.

This UFC always lacked great HW's and had a bunch of midgets and lnp masters.

I only watch UFC if there is an exciting HW fight or one of former pride fighters is fighting (altho they been losing recently since they 40 years old now).


Watch K-1/Its showtime events, Mike Chavello + Frank Trigg = Epicness

[thebowtod]

I just don't like mma for a lot if reasons

1. Their strikes are just a joke, not a single mma fighter can throw a decent punch. Why dod you think that mma guy backed out against a washed up piece of crap like Jeff Lacey?

2. There is no second chances. At least in boxing/kickboxing/wrestling theres is more than 1 oppurtunity to win the fight than just one lucky punch/hold. You can get up if you get knocked down. In ufc, once your down, its over.

3. The fights are really short, your lucky if you get past 1 round in mma. In boxing you get short fights but very rarely do you see a knockout for the mega fights with guys like mayweather/pacman

[BG_Knocc_Out]

It all boils down to how they are ran. UFC can put on great shows because they have the rights and souls of top-tier fighters, so they are able to make the best matchmaking possible. Boxing has a lot more complex, greedy system than that because majority of the time, promoters don't have to many top level fighters on their roster. And given how many promoters there are out there, the chances of having more than two great fighters on their roster is extremely slim if you're not Arum or a Golden Boy. Also weight classes play a huge part. There are only 7 weight divisions in the UFC. ONLY 7! The chances of great fighters facing each other is very high. Especially since in MMA it's encouraged to add bulk and muscle, so staying at a comfortable weight is a bit more efficient. So weight class fluctuation doesn't happen nearly as often as boxing, considering the amount of classes boxing has. Pacquiao has won titles in more weight divisions, 8, than UFC's number of weight divisions, 7.

In MMA, there is far less competition against other companies. It's basically just UFC, Bellator, DREAM, and uhhhh, I don't know. Now the equivalent in boxing is Top Rank, Golden Boy, Goosen, DiBella, Gary Shaw, Don King, and thousands of others. And lets not forget these promoters don't normally cross promote all that often unless they have the advantages in whatever it may be. Normally if they have the bigger fighter than the other promoter, they get dibs.

So basically, MMA has much more control over making bigger cards with worthy undercards and whatnot. They are able to produce exciting fights due to their overall control in matchmaking.


I look at it like this. MMA is entertainment, Boxing is a sport.

[prinzemanspopa]

Do you honestly think this fa^got has the slightest clue about boxing? How often have we seen the "fighters",the promoters,the fans and the media of that pitiful excuse for a sport claim that they're a boxing fan and then go out of their way to completely disparge it? I'll tell you how often: every single time one of these tosspots attempt to compare their product with an entire sport - and trust me,these type of articles are very,very common.It's predictable and they've been doing it for years now.



Truth is,this cum-gurgling,arse-reaming twat had no idea that,just a week previous,Matthew Macklin and Felix Sturm engaged in a tremendous,toe-to-toe battle in which both boxers managed to sustain an incredible pace over twelve rounds.He wouldn't have any idea because he's not the boxing fan that he claims to be.He's just some f^cking hipster that had previously seen a few Tyson and Pacquiao highlights on youtube,bought into the hype of the Klitschko-Haye fight and thinks he's qualified to offer an opinion about the entire state of the sport of boxing.





If MMGAY truly was this phenomenon that we've been told that it was,why do they continue to compare itself to boxing? I mean,they're supposedly doing so well - why even bother discussing such a dead,decrepit sport? You don't think it's due to the fact that boxing is,was,and always will be the premiere combat sport,do you?

[BG_Knocc_Out]

Do you honestly think this fa^got has the slightest clue about boxing? How often have we seen the "fighters",the promoters,the fans and the media of that pitiful excuse for a sport claim that they're a boxing fan and then go out of their way to completely disparge it? I'll tell you how often: every single time one of these tosspots attempt to compare their product with an entire sport - and trust me,these type of articles are very,very common.It's predictable and they've been doing it for years now.



Truth is,this cum-gurgling,arse-reaming twat had no idea that,just a week previous,Matthew Macklin and Felix Sturm engaged in a tremendous,toe-to-toe battle in which both boxers managed to sustain an incredible pace over twelve rounds.He wouldn't have any idea because he's not the boxing fan that he claims to be.He's just some f^cking hipster that had previously seen a few Tyson and Pacquiao highlights on youtube,bought into the hype of the Klitschko-Haye fight and thinks he's qualified to offer an opinion about the entire state of the sport of boxing.





If MMGAY truly was this phenomenon that we've been told that it was,why do they continue to compare itself to boxing? I mean,they're supposedly doing so well - why even bother discussing such a dead,decrepit sport? You don't think it's due to the fact that boxing is,was,and always will be the premiere combat sport,do you?

For once I agree with you.

[Dynamite Kid]

If you ever wanted a clear illustration of what's right with mixed martial arts and what's wrong with boxing, you got it on Saturday: Boxing fans were told to expect the biggest heavyweight fight in almost a decade, and they were treated to a dull, plodding 12-round affair in which Klitschko did what he always does and Haye looked like he didn't want to fight at all. Meanwhile, MMA fans were treated to UFC 132, an absolutely outstanding event capped by a world bantamweight title fight in which Dominick Cruz and Urijah Faber gave fans everything they could ask for and more.

I'm a longtime boxing fan, and on Saturday morning I was just as excited about Klitschko-Haye as I was about Cruz-Faber. I thought both my boxing needs and my MMA needs would be fulfilled with big fights in both sports. But I was quickly reminded that boxing is too often a pretty dull sport: There are still some great fights and still some great fighters, but much of the time, you tune in for a big fight and you turn off your TV an hour later in disgust, mad that they ****** you in for a snoozefest.

The guy obviously has no commonsense.

Fighters rarely make a conscious decision to entertain the crowd, well, not untill they have a fight under control and know they can get away with being more assertive, now to get the fight going in your direction is hard enough, particularly at this level, so what makes this guy think fighters make a concious decision when and where there going to turn it on?

The margins are so small at this level, that if you start cooperating with what the opponent wants you to do, can lose you a fight.