A rare video of Muhammad Ali fighting the best Soviet boxers in Moscow, 1978.

[Danny Gunz]

****** alert BEEP BEEP

wlad = HW king
Vitali = ran LL into early retirement

Jesus I have never seen a fighter given so much credit for a loss as Vitali has. Let it go he lost the most important fight of his life.

As for Wlad is anyone really impressed with what he has done in the HW division. I mean he was given the oppurtunity of a lifetime the other day to redefine his career. Yet he went back on everything he promised and turned in his worst performance in recent memory.

[sweetscience18]

Haha everyone hating on america cause its multicultural?
Thats the definition of America its called the land of oppurtunity.
And FYI Chinas economy succeeds because we our their main supporters and our economy is still far ahead ofmtheres even tho its growing at a large rate lets wait and see if they can maintain it first.

The US isnt perfect but if you would rather of had the USSR become the country of power in this world than you have issues.

[Forza]

Jesus I have never seen a fighter given so much credit for a loss as Vitali has. Let it go he lost the most important fight of his life.

As for Wlad is anyone really impressed with what he has done in the HW division. I mean he was given the oppurtunity of a lifetime the other day to redefine his career. Yet he went back on everything he promised and turned in his worst performance in recent memory.

Anyone with a brain knows the doctor won the fight. The whole thing could have been resolved if LL didn't pull a ***** move and retire.

[Medved]

The ring agrees with everything i've stated ITT (outside of Floyd being #1 at Welterweight)

The Ring > Basement dwelling neckbeards

Still waiting for somebody to show me a nation that has more boxers at the top of their division than the U.S.

The Ring is owned by Golden Boy.


Boxrec Rankings:

HeavyWeight: Wladimir Klitschko
CW: Steve Cunningham
LH: Bernard Hopkins
SM: Lucian Bute
M:Sergio Gabriel Martinez
LM:Miguel Angel Cotto
Welter: Manny Pacquiao
LW: Timothy Bradley
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez
Super Feather: Adrien Broner
Featherweight: Orlando Salido
Super Bantomweight: Toshiaki Nishioka
Bantomweight: Nonito Donaire
Super Fly : Hugo Fidel Cazares
Flyweight: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Light Flyweight: Roman Gonzalez
Minimumweight: Nkosinathi Joyi

and lets be real Broner is in a dead divisions where the #2+ are complete nobodies and unknowns.

and Amir Khan > Bradley. So all you have is
a Fossil in BHOP in a decent division but I dont think he's the best American LHW much less worlds LHW. (Cloud is #1 American LHW in my opinion)

and CW division is Dead, all the top contenders who beat/will beat Cunningham went to Heavyweight since they know CW is a useless division with no money or big fights

[Forza]

Adamek ruled CW anyways

[ztrac79]

He has a victory over every belt holder in the division.



About as dead as the heavyweight division.



Yup.



Nope, Ward's undefeated, and has beaten the guy that Froch got beat by. But this will be settled shortly.




Floyd beat the #1 guy at Welterweight, Manny hasn't. Quality over quantity.



Bradley has been a champ in the division longer than Khan, and holds 2 titles.



He's about as American as the Klitschko's are Ukrainian.

Your on a roll

[Macks]

Slavs are the best HW athletes in the world. They are bigger and stronger on average than any other race. This is not just a boxing phenomenon.

Take a look at MMA, the best HW fighter of all time is Russian Fedor Emilianenko. The biggest HW fight in the history of MMA was between a Croatian (Cro Cop) and a Russian (Fedor).

Now take a look at the top 10 HW MMA prospects here:

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/4/7/...uting-report-1

its the same story.

[Macks]

heres a list of olympic amateur wrestling champions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tyle_wrestling

the furthest to the right is the hw champions.

[Macks]

look at this ****ing monster.



these guys are going to dominate mma in the near future.

[Deal With It]

The Ring is owned by Golden Boy.


Boxrec Rankings:

HeavyWeight: Wladimir Klitschko
CW: Steve Cunningham
LH: Bernard Hopkins
SM: Lucian Bute
M:Sergio Gabriel Martinez
LM:Miguel Angel Cotto
Welter: Manny Pacquiao
LW: Timothy Bradley
Lightweight: Juan Manuel Marquez
Super Feather: Adrien Broner
Featherweight: Orlando Salido
Super Bantomweight: Toshiaki Nishioka
Bantomweight: Nonito Donaire
Super Fly : Hugo Fidel Cazares
Flyweight: Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Light Flyweight: Roman Gonzalez
Minimumweight: Nkosinathi Joyi

and lets be real Broner is in a dead divisions where the #2+ are complete nobodies and unknowns.

and Amir Khan > Bradley. So all you have is
a Fossil in BHOP in a decent division but I dont think he's the best American LHW much less worlds LHW. (Cloud is #1 American LHW in my opinion)

and CW division is Dead, all the top contenders who beat/will beat Cunningham went to Heavyweight since they know CW is a useless division with no money or big fights

You just cited a source that basically proved my point, and you're still trying to argue? LMAO.

Yeah, divisions are all of a sudden "dead" when a nationality you don't like is at the top of it.

But when a division is ruled by a person that is of a nationality that you find favorable, all of a sudden it's filled with all time greats that would've ruled past eras with ease.