Just rewatched Wlad vs. Haye.

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  • SLIMY RAT
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    #31
    Originally posted by ny123
    Also this is off topic but doesn't Steward seem to give some bad advice to his fighters? I mean Wlad was clearly winning and Steward is telling him he is losing and giving Wlad a strategy that would give Haye a better chance to win. It reminds me of Cintron Margarito 2 where Cintron was clearly fighting much better from the outside but yet Steward was telling him to fight going forward and on the inside.
    Not sure when he said this? was it after Wlad lost points and before the fake KD? The rounds were very close in my view.. Wlad landing more.. Haye landing the better looking shots..

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    • FrankieBruno
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      #32
      the way both men talked in the conference, people thought it would be a big scarp with blows, instead it was a technical fight. Both men were tryingt o outsmart each other in the press conference and both changed tactics once they got into the ring, neither man thought it'd be that type of fight

      it wasnt a bad fight, unless you wanted a all out fight where a fighter takes a 20 blows to the face per round

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      • niallcollins
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        #33
        Originally posted by ny123
        Call me crazy but the fight wasn't that bad. Both guys took flush shots and stood up pretty well and the fight was at a very high speed and very tactical. I wouldn't mind watching Haye against Vitaly or even better with a guy like Adamek or Arreola.
        ur not crazy ur just a f-uckin dope.thats fight was terrible

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        • iPhoneKiller
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          #34
          Steward gave the right advice. Wlad was winning rounds because of 2 hard shots. Haye may have got one.

          The final stats were 105 jabs and a total of 134 shots landed. So it tells you that Wlad didn't do that much.

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          • Pugilistic™
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            #35
            Originally posted by ny123
            Call me crazy but the fight wasn't that bad. Both guys took flush shots and stood up pretty well and the fight was at a very high speed and very tactical. I wouldn't mind watching Haye against Vitaly or even better with a guy like Adamek or Arreola.
            Your Crazy

            Jokes aside, it wasn't the worst fight i seen but he sure as hell could of been better.

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            • Kimo
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              #36
              The fight certainly wasn't as one-sided as most people say, Wlad was just winning most of the rounds because of the way he fought, racking up points and keeping the pressure on.

              I want to see a re-match, there's nothing better at the moment. But facing Vitali would definitely spark some interest again first.

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              • Joe2608
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                #37
                It was good to see Heavyweights lasting 12 rounds and still giving it their all not puffed out after a couple of rounds. It was a very tactical fight and i expected that, Wlad was never going to fight any differently, Haye was never going to go in there all guns blazing despite what both said.

                It was definitely the pre-fight hype that killed it. Both promised spectacular KO's and both didn't deliver. Haye's limited punch output was another contributing factor as it made it look like he wasn't trying to all the casual fans, when really he was trying he just couldn't get past the size/reach difference.

                Having said all that, i don't want to see a rematch. If Haye is going to fight again he has to do it against Vitali. But first he's gotta face a top 10 guy to get the interest in a fight between him and Vitali back.

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                • gauze
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ElderlyBeater
                  Steward gave the right advice. Wlad was winning rounds because of 2 hard shots. Haye may have got one.

                  The final stats were 105 jabs and a total of 134 shots landed. So it tells you that Wlad didn't do that much.

                  Klitschko 134/509 ; Haye 72/290 (haye landed 36 jabs)

                  if you look at some of klitschkos other punch stats, it's really not much different from his output over the last few years. it's just that he usually isnt fighting someone who's not willing to engage as much as haye wasn't.

                  here's an excerpt from an article i found on the compubox website.. "Klitschko has outlanded his last four opponents 632-188 in total punches. In those fights against Hasim Rahman, Ruslan Chagaev, Eddie Chambers and Samuel Peter, Klitschko was both perfect soldier and supreme ring general. Of Klitschko's combined 52.6 total punches thrown per round, 36.7 of them -- 70 percent -- were jabs. Of those 632 landed punches, 421 (or 67%) were jabs. He out-landed Rahman 134-15, Peter 53-9, Chambers 124-54 and Chagaev 110-26 but his connect percentages have steadily gone down (50.3 Rahman, 30.6 Chagaev, 24.2 Chambers and 19.6 Peter). Still, he won virtually every round because his rivals mustered a token counter-attack, landing an average of FIVE, yes FIVE total punches per round."

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #39
                    It was a bad fight. Maybe everyone else's standards for a heavyweight fight have fallen, but it doesn't change that Wlad-Haye was bad.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #40
                      Having watch it again since last week, I was surprise the fight went 12 rounds.. The hype surrounding the fight made it look like the fight was bad, but I knew it would be a cautions fight, another surprise for me was Haye was able to make Wlad miss with that jab, I thought he would be tagged a lot more than he did, especially with the way Ruiz was able to tagged him with his jab in their fight.

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