Comments Thread For: Mayweather Rips Pacquiao: Praised For My Leftovers

[fcastro1]

Anyone can come off of a win against a freakin club fighter.

Granted, Marquez was coming off wins and I've always said that.

However, Hatton was damaged as a fighter as was Cotto.

Look at how Hatton struggled with Lazcano and Malignaggi. Hatton who beat Tszyu wouldn't have.

Cotto was beaten bloody. Then he fought club fighter Michael Jennings for a vacant paper title. Then he fought Clottey, who in many opinions, won that match. Cotto struggles and got so frustrated that he actually body slammed Clottey.

These guys have wins over no one significant. They were damaged and and it showed. When a fighter loses but isn't damaged or dejected, it shows too. Look at Sergio Martinez in his second match against Williams. Look at Paul Williams in his second fight against Quintana. Look at Victor Ortiz after losing to Maidana.

These fighters lost and looked spectacular in their following fights. They didn't seem gunshy, lacking in confidence or timid.

Pacquiao's last 6 opponents were all coming off of the biggest losses of their careers when Pacquiao targeted them.

That's the point.

how did hatton looked damaged against malignaggi and cotto was so damaged that he moved up and became the light middle weight champ. sure bro whatever biased shhhh you say.

how about pac fighting barrera when he was p4p3 in his first fight at feather. how about fighting marquez straight after the most ducked featherweight. How about moving up 3 divisions and dismantling oscar where he was underdog. Get the real facts bro and dont hate on greatness.

[JoeDaWg]

All I want is floyd v pac. I don't care in the slightest about loses that happened over ten years ago or a zero loss record that is seen by many as "hollow" pardon the pun.

Just make the fight happen like u keep saying u want to and let's settle this fight the only place it counts, in the ring.

And stop with the dinner slang, no "leftovers " talk neede here bro. Floyd wanted and took credit for fighting pacs "leftovers" in jmm. And im sure when he beats vic who happens to be madaina s gonna " super duper leftovers", he s gonna want his credit then too.

My point is leave the "leftovers" talk to ur grandma and cold chicken. It sounds ******ed coming out of a grown mans mouth.

[Brother Jay]

Err yeah, thats exactly what it means, he came third!

This is quite possibly one of the funniest things yet from a *****. Its right up there with 'a decade has 11 years in it'

Someone please instruct me on how to put this classic in my sig.

Okay then ... he is an Olympic medalist. It doesn't change the facts. Pacquiao fought club fighters in his first 40 fights mostly in Southeast Asia. It wasn't until his 41st fight that Pacquiao stepped his game up.

Floyd is an Olympian. When he turned pro he waited until his 18th pro fight to face a world champion and future HOF.

Err ... so while your idol was getting knocked out in the Orient, Floyd was winning championships, beating the best in each division except jrWW[Tszyu] and became the #1 P4P and best boxer of this era.

How do I put in my sig line that Pacquiao wasn't even a candidate for P4P anything until Floyd left and boxing became desperate to fill his shoes?

how did hatton looked damaged against malignaggi and cotto was so damaged that he moved up and became the light middle weight champ. sure bro whatever biased shhhh you say.

how about pac fighting barrera when he was p4p3 in his first fight at feather. how about fighting marquez straight after the most ducked featherweight. How about moving up 3 divisions and dismantling oscar where he was underdog. Get the real facts bro and dont hate on greatness.

Hatton looked ****ty! Are you fcuking kidding? Feather fisted Malignaggi went 11 rounds with Hatton, but Castillio couldn't go 5?

Who did Cotto beat to become a jrMW champion? The weakest out of the lot! Cotto knows he's broken and that's why he has to try to figure things out against the cheater Margarito now.

Who has Barrera beat in his entire career? Morales and Nasim Hamed. Are you fcuking kidding? Junior Jones nearly beat the dude into retirement. Do you watch boxing or are you completely swayed by Lampley and Letterman?

How about robbing Marquez twice? How do you get 3 knockdowns in the first round and then get outboxed for 11 rounds and get a draw?

How about beating DLH at 145lbs when DLH hadn't competed at that weight in 7 years! How about stipulating that DLH couldn't come in on fight night at whatever weight he wanted to like Floyd did?

You don't know **** about greatness.

What's great about Pacquiao? The fact that he uses catchweights or the fact that he primarily seeks to compete for vacant titles so to sidestep the champions in the divisions?

Could Pacquiao be great because he fought a cheater banned in 50 states for a vacant jrMW titles that neither man was in position to compete for? Huh?

Maybe Pacquiao is great because his last 6 opponents had all just lost the biggest fights of their careers when Pacquiao was finally willing to face them. Is that it?

Maybe Pacquiao is great because he refused to accept terms 2 years ago that he is now desperate to accept?

Don't be a ******ed clown.

Greatness is reserved for people who have earned it without "special treatment". No one ever considered for the distinction of an ATG has ever targeted boxers ranked below #4 to make the case.

[JSS]

How long ago was the last time pac and jmm fought?

Who fought JMM first? Pac or Fraud...enough said. JMM was Pacs leftovers.

[Sugar Q]

Marquez was Pacquiao's left overs you dumb****!!! Pac fought Marquez at a weight class where Marquez was at his best; and came out with a draw and a win. Fraud bloated him up to a weight where fraud knew he was not even at his best. So no credit there. Fraud fights those fighters on a winning streak...why not fight a fighter on a 14fights winning streak? Why not fight a fighter that fights only old and has-beens, that would be a easy fight for fraud? Why? B/c frauds own trainer (Roger) said that fraud should fight more tune up fights before facing Pacquiao...wow!!! Even frauds own trainer doesn't have confidence in fraud.

Your the dumb **** because 80% of the people who watched those fights had Marquez definitely winning 1 if not both fights. Does a draw sound like a win to your silly ass? And where was your punkass when Manny said in the post fight interview that he didnt wanna face Marquez again? Sounds like something your punkass would say huh? All BS aside read'em and weap stiff:

http://fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-2.html

[fcastro1]

Okay then ... he is an Olympic medalist. It doesn't change the facts. Pacquiao fought club fighters in his first 40 fights mostly in Southeast Asia. It wasn't until his 41st fight that Pacquiao stepped his game up.

Floyd is an Olympian. When he turned pro he waited until his 18th pro fight to face a world champion and future HOF.

Err ... so while your idol was getting knocked out in the Orient, Floyd was winning championships, beating the best in each division except jrWW[Tszyu] and became the #1 P4P and best boxer of this era.

How do I put in my sig line that Pacquiao wasn't even a candidate for P4P anything until Floyd left and boxing became desperate to fill his shoes?

pac only won the lineal flyweight title as a malnutritoned 19 year old with no amature background. dont hate on greatness dude.

[hammerhiem]

Anyone can come off of a win against a freakin club fighter.

Granted, Marquez was coming off wins and I've always said that.

However, Hatton was damaged as a fighter as was Cotto.

Look at how Hatton struggled with Lazcano and Malignaggi. Hatton who beat Tszyu wouldn't have.

Hold the fort.... hatton struggled against Lazcano and Malinaggi??

Hatton won every round on 2 of the cards against Lazcano and for all people highlight 30 seconds of that fight to show Hatton in trouble they convieniently ignore that 20-30 times Lazcano was in worse trouble in the other rounds, he was saved by the rope on numerous occasions, Hatton literally battered him for 35 minutes and 30 seconds of the 36 minutes but haters will hate.

As for malinaggi Hatton utterly destroyed him, at no point was he in trouble and it was 9-1 to hatton on all 3 cards.

Reality check required.

[junior gong]

Okay then ... he is an Olympic medalist. It doesn't change the facts. Pacquiao fought club fighters in his first 40 fights mostly in Southeast Asia. It wasn't until his 41st fight that Pacquiao stepped his game up.

Floyd is an Olympian. When he turned pro he waited until his 18th pro fight to face a world champion and future HOF.

Err ... so while your idol was getting knocked out in the Orient, Floyd was winning championships, beating the best in each division except jrWW[Tszyu] and became the #1 P4P and best boxer of this era.

How do I put in my sig line that Pacquiao wasn't even a candidate for P4P anything until Floyd left and boxing became desperate to fill his shoes?

Bactracking dumbass. Thats not what you said, I made you check it and you still came out with 'winning a bronze doesnt make him champion?' and then you had the nerve to question my ******ity.

Furthermore, Manny isnt my idol, bumsniff. I rate both Manny and Floyd very highly, I just despise Floyd's dumbass fans who dont know the difference between 1st and 3rd, and how many years there are in a decade!

[junior gong]

For anyone wondering if there is any difference between 1st and 3rd, it can be discussed here.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492610

[megas30]

A few points.

DLH was a 4-1 favourite to beat Pacquiao.
Hatton was still unbeaten at JWW (lineal champ btw).
Pac beat them both more impressively (destroyed) than Floyd.

When floyd fought DLH was that Mosleys leftovers?

Floyd fought Marquez - Pacs left overs.

Does he not see the flaws in his own aurgument?

Floyd built a bad boy image (wether its true or not) that probably why he's disliked.

Also - he still doesn't understand that a '0' doesn't mean ****.

Before i'm called a ******* i actually think Mayweather put's a boxing clinic on him.

This is twisting facts. No matter how you want to put it and Hatton was a defeated fighter when he faced Manny. Fighters moved up all the time and Hatton going up to fight Mayweather claims he was the bigger man. Beating them more impressively? Depends on who you ask; a causual fan would believe that he did beat them more convincingly, but a true fan who follows the sport knows thats bullox.

Floyd fought a Dela Hoya at his natural weight, coming off impressive win over Mayorga, and toyed with him. Ignore the judges' cards, turn the volume off and watch the fight you will be amazed. When Manny fought DLH, to be honest, we thought we were getting the same Dela Hoya who faced Mayweather and then something horrible went wrong, for what we saw was a ghost. I never seen someone so obviously dehydrated in a fight before, to the point where the naturally smaller man outweighed him. Manny did nothing wrong he went in and perform how he was supposed to, but one can't help but to wonder if manny deserved all the credit or DLH took away his shine by not turning up at his best. An undefeated Hatton who is coming off an impress ko of Castillo had his country and the media literally drumming up his confidence was systematically taken apart by Mayweather. One punch KO are never that impressive to me, because majority of the time they're fluke, to be fair Manny was beating Hatton up before the KO, but thats just their clash of style.

Would i say Manny did it more convincingly? YES... would i say he did it more impressively? NO, for circumstance doesn't allow it. The blue print was already laid, the confidence factor is gone, and time had put on it's mileage on both men who were seemingly on a decline slope.