Comments Thread For: Mayweather Rips Pacquiao: Praised For My Leftovers

[fcastro1]

The matter has nothing to do with Floyd running anything but his own career. Unlike Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is his own man. Arum makes statements and decisions for Pacquiao. Floyd is the master of his own destiny.

Pacquiao may be taking PEDs, but because he has consistently been the last man to know anything that happens with his career, he has a strong case to claim that he didn't know if he gets caught.

That said, Floyd has every right to be concerned about a boxer who has no idea about what others are putting into his body, and into his contracts.

Floyd does not have to be a state athletic commission to make demands during negotiations. Floyd is not FORCING Pacquiao to sign. The pressure from the fans is FORCING Pacquiao to sign. The growing stigma that has associated Pacquiao's past success with PEDs and doping is FORCING Pacquiao to sign. Pacquiao's "Pappy Arum" would miss out on the biggest payday in history. So Pappy Arum is FORCING Pacquiao to do it.

Floyd is not putting up countdown clocks. Floyd is not taking Pacquiao to court. Floyd has not refused any of Pacquiao's stipulations. He met them ALL. Pacquiao, for going on 3 years now, has refused the USADA random testing despite Floyd originally letting him off the hook with a 14 day cutoff.

And what's worse, Mayweather is taking the test as well! When Tyson demanded that Holyfield take additional PED tests for their fight 14 years ago, Tyson didn't take those same tests along with him. Floyd is willing to test right along with Manny!

So what the excuse now? Shane took the tests. Ortiz has agreed to and is taking the tests. Why is it only Pacquiao that is afraid for the world to see what's pumping in his veins? Why is it that nearly every fighter within a division of Mayweather has said that they would take ANY tests if it meant that they would get the huge payday that comes from facing boxing's biggest draw? It seems that the tests are only a big deal to Team Pacquiao, because dozens of fighters have gone on record in video clips and in print to say that they would do anything Mayweather wants to get a shot.


I know you'll continue to make excuses for Pacquiao though. You're just a silly peasant who clings to hope that Manny Pacquiao will someday bring forth the rapture so that you and the rest of the *******s can hold hands , be forgiven for your ******ity and fly up to steroid heaven.

this is the reason moron. But now pac has accepted 7 days which more than acceptable. a quote from conte in the ring magazine said that its dangerous for a boxer to draw blood 5 days before a fight, so even an expert agrees to what pac is saying. so whats the problem.

stop trying to misguide people with your opinions. Floyd was fine with 14 now he isnt. He is holding up this fight to moron.it was full proof then but it isnt now, wtf. If he really wanted to fight pac then he would accpet his first proposal.

[Ratchet21]

He made De La Hoya quit though man!!! I think thats worse than getting KO'd, because at least when you get KTFO'd your'e going down fighting. As far as Hatton is concerned he hasn't been the same since he got knocked out by Pac not Mayweather

[Ko King 212]

Coming from another hater this is funny...

Post an example or shut the f-ck up.

[The Big Dunn]

this is the reason moron. But now pac has accepted 7 days which more than acceptable. a quote from conte in the ring magazine said that its dangerous for a boxer to draw blood 5 days before a fight, so even an expert agrees to what pac is saying. so whats the problem.

stop trying to misguide people with your opinions. Floyd was fine with 14 now he isnt. He is holding up this fight to moron.it was full proof then but it isnt now, wtf. If he really wanted to fight pac then he would accpet his first proposal.

If he really wanted to fight pac then he would accpet his first proposal.

He did, then manny refused the random OST so no fight.

[Gutz]

Post an example or shut the f-ck up.

I dont need to B!tch.. Youre a known pac hater / ***** f@ggot... with 0 rep..

[littlemac]

Its irrelevant that's why, if Mayweather hadn't tried to cheat Marquez at the scales, there is no need for the stipulation.

Comparing unfounded allegations, to someone who has been guilty of something in the past, is ridiculous.

My point still stand, and is irrefutable. Fighters are regularly! submitting to the conditions Floyd wont, so that is on Floyd, now if there were a shred of evidence to suggest Manny was on PED, or had in the past taken PED, and the claim had not come directly from the Mayweather family, then! there would be a case for Manny to answer.

Not sure if you know, but Roach has had fighters test positive for steroids. Thats evidence that one could say that because Manny is being trained by someone with history with steroids. That could be a good reason enough to ask for special consideration on testing.

Now to suggest that people are only su****ious about Manny simply because of what someone else said is a classic example of self projection that Pac fans are influence by the media there for those su****ions in Manny were influences by the Mayweathers cause in your own admission this is the only way you understand why people are su****ious.

Because of your fanboy/sheep like mentality. Your failing to see that perhaps Manny's own constant change and contradicting position on testing could be the cause of people su****ion on Manny. Here is a link of a vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNBh8PJtFM that illustrates how the world outside of subjective Pacfans see how ridiculous Manny's stands on testing truly is.

[littlemac]

I dont need to B!tch.. Youre a known pac hater / ***** f@ggot... with 0 rep..

Give it up you mental midget and save yourself the embarressment of shooting blanks.

Now if you want me to serve you some more schooling let me know or you can just continue to run from me lol.......

[tdubb]

I dont need to B!tch.. Youre a known pac hater / ***** f@ggot... with 0 rep..

You should see him at sohh.com messageboards its even worse. Posters over there are some of the most close minded ***** fa66ots you'lll ever see.

[Brother Jay]

Completely biased post.

Show me the bias! When have facts become opinions? These are not select facts. These are records we a re discussing.

Pac fought Hatton at his best weight, where he was undefeated and coming off his second most impressive win, where not only did he completely dominate the #1 contender, he completey outboxed him against all expectations.

Mayweather didn't ask Hatton to come to WW. Hatton chased the money as Mayweather moved up. Keep in mind that Mayweather was trying to negotiate with Tszyu, but Tszyu outpriced himself by asking and sticking to a 60/40 split. Mayweather fought Gatti and then moved up. Hatton, who at the time had not one real significant win, secured a match with Tszyu and won in an ugly, rugged match. I thought Hatton would have done the same to Pacquiao, but instead he decided to throw leaping haymakers as if he were Mac from Mike Tyson's punchout. Hatton was undefeated when he fought Mayweather. Hatton fought a smarter fight against Mayweather. But as usual, Pacquiao targeted Hatton once he lost to Mayweather.

When Pac fought De La Hoya he went up two divisions having had only one fight as a lightweight, whereas De La Hoya only had to lose 3 lbs from his previous fight. Only a hater would degrade those circumstances to prop Mayweather up.

Degrade what circumstances? There was a 3 lb difference when Pacquaio fought DLH! There was a 20lb difference between DLH and Floyd the night they fought! Only a complete idiot would ignore those defining differences! Its hardly the same thing.

And the handicap thing, shows what a joker you are.

Wrong. That would be Jack Napier.[/QUOTE]

Pac's fought one welter at a catchweight of 145, when he went up to fight Cotto from the Hatton fight where he weighed 138. Cotto weighed 146 in most of his fights there, so he only had to lose one lb, Pac had to put on 7 to make the limit.

Let it be clear that Pacquiao has used several catchweights in a division where he could have and should have made 147lbs. You can make excuses for Pacquiao, but Pac can easily make 150. Manny is 2" shorter than both Shane and Mosley. Roach, as a student of Futch, knows how significant a difference cutting weight can make. That's why Roach was on video saying that he WOULD NOT FACE MOSLEY AT 147lbs! He said that it was too much of an advantage and they would only even consider a catchweight of 142lbs! Did you miss that video??? Then after Floyd dominated Shane, they let Shane fight at 147!!! Who is bias now, Fighting Lies?

In any case many of the greats of the past have fought at catchweights, and none had gone up 10 divisions as Pac has done, and I doubt any were as small or outweighed in those fights by as much as Pac was during his fights.

Pac has made sure that NONE of his catchweight opponents have outweighed him more than 5-7lbs. When Roy Jones went up from 175lbs to fight HW champion John Ruiz, he weighed 193llbs while Ruiz was 226lbs. So WTF are you talking about? When Mayweather came up from SFW and fought DLH, Floyd weighed 150lbs, but on fight night DLH absolutely REFUSED to be weighed because he came in at 170-175lbs. So WTF are you talking about???

Pacquiao uses rehydration stipulations so that on fight night his opponents cannot exceed a certain weight. You may not know about it, but then again you are not a student of the game. Its an old trick to gain an edge by screwing with your opponent's rehydration. Roach makes sure its in the contract. It is NO COINCIDENCE that both DLH & Margarito came in at those disadvantageous weights after having the opportunity to rehydrate. Only someone who knows the game would be able to write about that. And that's why you clearly didn't.

When it's all said and done what Pac's been doing at 140-147 will be seen as gravy on an already ATG career at the lower weights (5-1-1 3KO record vs MAB, EM, JMM, and 3 lineal titles from 106-130).

I actually love this comment. Some of the titles that Pac acquire were vacant titles. One cannot be considered a champion if he did not defeat a champion for the distinction. Go read it and weep. As far as his wins over MAB and EM ... you do realize that they both were on the downside of their careers when they fought Pacquiao right? MAB had already been schooled by Junior Jones. He found redemption against Prince Hamed, but MAB's real claim to fame came against EM. Who else has MAB fought??? EM's claim to fame is fighting MAB, but his cherry on top came when he beat Pac. EM was easily outboxed by Zahir Raheem as if he were a amateur. Did you see the fight? I laughed throughout the whole fight!

Pac's ATG great career has more to do with WHEN he fought certain names than the actual names he beat. Evidence of that is how he's targeted his last 6 opponents at their weakest moments in losses. 6 in a row!

He went on from that to fight and win titles in 5 divisions in a span of only 7 fights and dominate all his opponents. That will never be repeated and, win or lose vs Mayweather, he will get his just due from that remarkable feat no-one thought him capable of when there was first talk of him going up to fight those guys while still at super feather. Infact he supposed to get destroyed and massacred. How quickly people forget

The same was said about Mayweather! Mayweather was once Pacquiao's size, but he didn't turn pro at 16! Olympics and all. The difference between the two is that Pacquiao competed for vacant titles for his multi-division championship claim. Mayweather competed against champions who held the most prestigious WBC title in every division. Go read it and weep!

Also, Mayweather fought his first world champion and future HOF in his 18th fight. Pacquiao fought club fighters in his first 40 fights, most of them while he was hiding out and padding his record in southeast Asia. Go read it and weep!

Let's be real: Pacquiao hadn't been considered for a P4P top 5 rank for beating declining MAB and EM. His real accolades started when he stepped up into the big leagues against DLH.

In the end, it will have to be factored in that his fight with DLH was the fight that put Pacquiao on the P4P stage, and it will have to be factored in that DLH and every fighter Pacquiao faced after that, were not only coming off losses, but dropped in rank to #5 and were not the championship threat that they once were at the point when Pacquiao faced them.

There are catchweights that need to be factored in. There is a vacant jrMW title that Manny competed for against a banned WW cheater that has to be factored in. Pacquiao being knocked out twice and outboxed by EM has to be factored in.

Now Fighting Pride, show me the bias. What I have written is all true. What I have written can easily be verified by looking at Manny Pacquiao's record. What you have written is a Hallmark card trying to bask Manny Pacquiao's shady career in a noble light. You failed. Even with the help of media accolades like "Fighter of the Year" and "Fighter of the Decade", his record cannot and will not be more than it is.

And do YOU know what it is, Fighting Pride? Its one big & exciting, action packed excuse that tried to state that a fighter being "so small" in itself is reason enough to hail him as the best, regardless as to how he conducts his career. They failed too. So you have company!

Real boxing fans know better, see through the bullsh*it, and don't support the circus tactics that boxing has adopted to make Pacquiao seem legitimate.

Nice chatting with you!

[Brother Jay]

this is the reason moron. But now pac has accepted 7 days which more than acceptable. a quote from conte in the ring magazine said that its dangerous for a boxer to draw blood 5 days before a fight, so even an expert agrees to what pac is saying. so whats the problem.

stop trying to misguide people with your opinions. Floyd was fine with 14 now he isnt. He is holding up this fight to moron.it was full proof then but it isnt now, wtf. If he really wanted to fight pac then he would accpet his first proposal.

We know what the reason was. Pacquiao got caught off guard and had to give a clean blood sample with no notice. That's what happened.

Floyd signed a contract allowing Pacquiao to have his 14 days. Pacquiao refused it, citing principle and pinoy pride as excuses. Once Floyd came back from his 2008 hiatus, he beat the #1 WW and the terms were more severe at that point.

When you refuse an offer, what makes you think that the offer stays on the table? What makes you think that Pacquiao can demand anything from a position of weakness?

Pacquiao is not the #1 WW.
Pacquiao is not the draw.
Pacquiao does not have the more significant wins.
Pacquiao is not fighting the more significant opponent in his next fight.

Pacquiao is in no position to demand anything. Yet Mayweather gave Pacquiao everything he wanted. Mayweather made a demand, and Pacquiao has been stuttering about it and scrambling around it for going on 3 years!

Remember peasant, Pacquiao will do what his Pappy Arum tells him to do. Mayweather calls his own shots. Mayweather gets all of his money. Pappy Arum gets most of Pacquiao's money.

So this illusion of a rivalry between Mayweather and Pacquiao doesn't even really exist. Its really a struggle between Arum and Mayweather because Floyd told Bob that he couldn't be his Pappy anymore and make money off of his name. Pacquiao has PUBLICLY admitted that he doesn't make decisions about who he fights, where he fights and other details about his career. Like Manny said "I just do the fighting".