Comments Thread For: Roach: If Mayweather Beats Ortiz, Pacquiao is Waiting

[LeadUppercut]

There were no "second negotiations ".....

how i'm i getting dismantled dumb ***.. when there was proven negotiations which team Floyd lied about..

g**** on being a dumb *****

It must be nice and cozy with your head fimly planted that far up your arse.

1.) Haymon categorically denied that the two phone calls were part of any negotiation. (So, you think that errand-boy Greenburg, who is not a central figure in any fight negotiation, and was not even present during the official negotiation, all of a sudden can hold a genuine negotiation himself, over the phone, without even leaving his office, with no talks, no meetings, no discussions, no deals, no agreements, no contracts, NOTHING!! And without meeting with either of the two parties? Wake up man, does that even sound right? Does that sound even slightly similar to how the negotiations went down originally. How fkn ****** can you be, "a couple of phone calls". Really?
2.) Schaefer denied that there was any negotiation
3.) Schaefer insisted that he, Arum, and Greenburg, take a polygraph test, but Team Pacquiao dont take tests
4.) I provided links proving that Arum's deadline was a sham
5.) I provided links proving that it is impossible for Ross Greenburg to have started his negotiations on May 2nd, as he publicly stated
6.) I have provided links showing the full timeline, clearly, there were no official second-round of negotiations

dis·man·tle (ds-mntl)
tr.v. dis·man·tled, dis·man·tling, dis·man·tles
1.
a. To take apart; disassemble; tear down.
b. To put an end to in a gradual systematic way

Dismantled.

Arum played the media to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight.

[richardt]

I also dont believe that Pac should be critisized for fighting Marquez because Marquez showed in 2 fights that he is capable of beating Pac and could have already. I'm impressed with that as much as Mayweather fighting Ortiz. This is my point, be objective...about something, anything. That goes for Mayweather and Pac fans.

[richardt]

Does anyone realize how much of these arguments will be worthless if Pac and Mayweather fight and how insignificant this will all be if they don't? Life goes on.....opinions are like......you know. Nothing ever changes with endless arguments. Logic is not found in the depth of the heart. You will believe what you chose to believe. Facts can be distorted and articles a lie or incomplete.

[sweetscience18]

It must be nice and cozy with your head fimly planted that far up your arse.

1.) Haymon categorically denied that the two phone calls were part of any negotiation. (So, you think that errand-boy Greenburg, who is not a central figure in any fight negotiation, and was not even present during the official negotiation, all of a sudden can hold a genuine negotiation himself, over the phone, without even leaving his office, with no talks, no meetings, no discussions, no deals, no agreements, no contracts, NOTHING!! And without meeting with either of the two parties? Wake up man, does that even sound right? Does that sound even slightly similar to how the negotiations went down originally. How fkn ****** can you be, "a couple of phone calls". Really?
2.) Schaefer denied that there was any negotiation
3.) Schaefer insisted that he, Arum, and Greenburg, take a polygraph test, but Team Pacquiao dont take tests
4.) I provided links proving that Arum's deadline was a sham
5.) I provided links proving that it is impossible for Ross Greenburg to have started his negotiations on May 2nd, as he publicly stated
6.) I have provided links showing the full timeline, clearly, there were no official second-round of negotiations

dis·man·tle (ds-mntl)
tr.v. dis·man·tled, dis·man·tling, dis·man·tles
1.
a. To take apart; disassemble; tear down.
b. To put an end to in a gradual systematic way

Dismantled.

Arum played the media to obtain funding and a date for the Margarito fight.

Daaaamn ahahaha

[richardt]

NO ONE is living Mayweather or Pac's lives except them, no one knows what makes them do what they do and NO ONE HERE sits in on negotiations and knows why each fighter thinks and feels the way he does. If everyone here spent a week with Pac or Mayweather, what do you want to bet all your questions would be answered and you would be a fan????? THINK about it!

[richardt]

And don't tell me I am wrong. There is one famous fighter I won't mention - that long ago I wanted to see get knocked the *** out. I won't say who it is because now I know him and one of his opponents. I had missconceptions of that fighter and have grown to now think the world of him. You don't know what is going on inside a fighter, HELL you don't really know the full story behind what you base your opinions on!!

[LeadUppercut]

And anyone complaining about Pac's lawsuit is BRAIN DEAD!!! All Mayweather had to do was SHUT THE *** UP and not go on racist rants and accuse Pac of cheating and there would be NO lawsuit! EVERYTHING began with Mayweather!!! But that does NOT mean Pac and Arum are without blame for a number of things. THIS is called being objective! Try it sometime!!

The " lawsuit " is a joke.

And you are not the knowledgable boxing fan that I thought you were.

Your position is that the lawsuit is fair, because Mayweather did not shut his mouth..... but you have completely ignored the fact that.....
1.) OSDT's are completely harmless
2.) Pacquiao has no excuse whatsoever to duck the random blood tests
3.) His 7 documented excuses are absurd, in fact laughable
4.) Roach publicly admitted that people would find Manny's refusal su****ious

Dude, stoppit willya, Pac could have just taken the test, end of fkn story.

Here is your real problem.....

I stated more than a year ago that.....
"they will milk the Manny-cow until it is dry, and then feed it to Mayweather"

Here is what you can look forward to over the next two years.....

JMM > Cotto/Marg winner > Cintron > Jones > Mayw..... I mean, Cotto again.

Why ?

Because of your blind acceptance of the ridiculous, Bob Arum now has an excuse to keep feeding Manny old men, faded champions, and bums.

Congratulations for that.

" oh no, we cant fight Mayweather, we need to clear up the legal issues before that fight can happen ".

What a fkn absurd situation. 3 years worth of ridiculous excuses

[sweetscience18]

Roach: if mayweather beats ortiz manny will be waiting......for floyd to beat amir khan while he prepares to fight victor ortiz

[LeadUppercut]

I think both Pac and Mayweather are taking risks in their next fight and anyone objective would see that. We know Marquez is a true warrior who I think could have gotten the nod in one of their fights so he is LIVE. Ortiz has hurt literally every fighter he has faced and is young, big, strong, hits hard, has serious pressure. BOTH guys should get credit!

No, he WAS live, 3 years ago at 130.

Now, we KNOW that Marquez cant hang at welter.

[LeadUppercut]

I am a Pac fan but I don't agree with the Mayweather haters or Pac fans that say Ortiz is is hand-picked. Ortiz is much younger and age and layoff can catch up to Mayweather. No one is immune. He may step into that ring and not have it one day or just be a step behind and against Ortiz that is dangerous! Mayweather could have picked Zaveck but chose a fireball instead.

It is fkn absurd to criticize Mayweather choice of opponent, and then justify Manny's. We all KNOW that Marquez cant hang at welter, and we all know that Pac thinks that Ortiz is "too green" but Jones is "ready"