Comments Thread For: Roach: If Mayweather Beats Ortiz, Pacquiao is Waiting

[richardt]

If May beats Ortiz and Pac loses to Marquez, no one is going to want to see May vs Marquez. But if Pac beats Marquez and May loses, Pac vs Ortiz would be a great fight. If the underdogs win, Ortiz vs Marquez would be interesting. The only bad scenario is where May and Marquez win because May already dominated Marquez.

[GRUSTLER]

Grustler -you should know better......excuses are only lame IF the fighter making the excuses does not win the rematch and Pac knocked out Morales twice.

OK, so what do you call what he was doing on the video? Pac lost the first fight and that's when he made his excuses. Right or wrong?

[richardt]

I don't think either Pac or May or anyone from their sides are just using publicity.....it clearly looks like both sides want the fight. My pick is May 116 to 114 and close only because Pac rocks May a couple times and drops him but May dominates the rest of the fight with precision counters.

[richardt]

OK, so what do you call what he was doing on the video? Pac lost the first fight and that's when he made his excuses. Right or wrong?

If he had lost the rematch, then all he had was excuses, if he won, then he had reasons. Plain and simple.

[richardt]

I'll make it easy. If a runner runs a mile in 2 minutes and says he could have done it in less than 2 minutes but his knee hurt and then he does the race again with a good knee and still does it in 2 minutes, he had excuses. If instead he comes back and wins in 1 minute and 45 seconds, then he had a reason.

[richardt]

The difference between reasons and excuses boils down to what happens when they try again at something and the outcome.

[richardt]

Example: Terry Norris, when knocked out by Simon Brown said that he was just not himself in that fight. If he had lost the rematch too, it would have been seen as EXCUSES. Since he DOMINATED in picture-perfect fashion in the rematch, it showed he had REASONS why he lost the first fight.

[Chups]

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[Ratchet21]

Nope, I think its raw natural talent good training, good nutrition, good faith, and a heart of a warrior, and after PAC takes those dumb-ass tests and whoops on floyd all you haters will be eating crow..

[tomhawq]

Nope, I think its raw natural talent good training, good nutrition, good faith, and a heart of a warrior, and after PAC takes those dumb-ass tests and whoops on floyd all you haters will be eating crow..

floyd at this point don't have balls to enter a pac negotiation let alone fight pac in the ring. he's happy saying "take the test pac!", "you're next pac!"

all talk, no balls.

fight will never happen.