Nevada's New Universal Random Testing Program

[ThePrince]

Of course the players are going to be opposed to better testing, why would they want to expose themselves? Just because there might be a better way to test (which urine could be, I'm not saying its a bad way. If they find a way to test for it, great. Right now there's not an effective method for it) doesn't mean the current method that USADA uses is useless.

You've been fooled into thinking it's better testing when it's clearly not. How is 48hrs, if at all, better than a 2 week window? it's basic math.

Upshaw: Players to accept urine, not blood, HGH test

PHOENIX -- NFL players will consent to a urine test for human growth hormone once such a test is developed.

Scientists, however, appear to be closer to developing a blood test for HGH, which stimulates growth and cell reproduction in humans.

"We all know there is no reliable test for HGH," Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players' Association, said Thursday at the union's Super Bowl news conference. "Until a test is developed for HGH, there's really not an awful lot to talk about. And when that test is developed, we really believe it should be a urine test. No one is interested in a blood test. We got a lot of big tough guys, but they don't even like to be pricked on the finger to give blood."

Commissioner Roger Goodell has said repeatedly since taking office just before the 2006 season that the league would implement a test for HGH as soon as one was found.

Upshaw's stance is similar to the one taken by baseball, which has pledged to adopt any validated urine test but does not want to test blood.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3225163

So yeah, agreeing to a validated HGH test that detects the substance in urine for up to 2 weeks but turning down a questionable and controversial test that MAYBE detects the substance for 48 hrs is shying away from better testing?

Blood testing is very safe and doesn't harm a fly. There is no physical disadvantage to getting blood drawn. There isn't.

“Dr. Watson has done thousands of weigh-in physicals and done thousands of fights. He’s viewed tons of medical records. What Dr. Watson was kind of saying was that on some occasions with fighters, he would notice hematomas on the inside of the elbow where they gave blood,” he was quoted by Fanhouse as saying.

From the NSAC meeting with USADA officials about their testing regime^

Not to mention nicked veins, paresthesia, infection.

Educate yourself, then type.

[AllEyesOpen]

It's a step in the right direction, blood testing should also be added, can't wait 10-20 years for experimental urine testing.

[ThePrince]

so does this means nsac is in the process, just sort of fund transfer, to improve the urine testing already in place????

Do you mean USADA?

HGH test would track use for up to two weeks

A ******ia company claims to have a urine-based test for human growth hormone that could be used to drug test athletes two weeks after its use, rather than 48 hours or less.

The company, Ceres Nanosciences, says the test eliminates the need for blood tests to detect HGH. Players' associations have pushed back on blood tests. Ceres says its test can be available within six months, through the World Anti-Doping Agency.

The story was first reported by the Washington Business Journal.

Current tests track HGH use only within the past 48 hours. The two-week test, and having it be urine-based, would theoretically make it harder for athletes to evade an HGH test.

A WADA spokesman said the organization is encouraging Ceres to continue researching the test. No worldwide studies have been conducted.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3504036

That was from '08- all the worldwide baseline tests and such have been conducted and the test is now in the process of being developed for commercial use. Once that happens, all the major U.S. players' associations will adopt it and so will USADA/WADA, and the latter will eliminate the obsolete blood tests.

As for NSAC, they've instituted random drug testing, both in and out of competition/training camp.

[warp1432]

You've been fooled into thinking it's better testing when it's clearly not. How is 48hrs, if at all, better than a 2 week window? it's basic math.

Upshaw: Players to accept urine, not blood, HGH test

PHOENIX -- NFL players will consent to a urine test for human growth hormone once such a test is developed.

Scientists, however, appear to be closer to developing a blood test for HGH, which stimulates growth and cell reproduction in humans.

"We all know there is no reliable test for HGH," Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players' Association, said Thursday at the union's Super Bowl news conference. "Until a test is developed for HGH, there's really not an awful lot to talk about. And when that test is developed, we really believe it should be a urine test. No one is interested in a blood test. We got a lot of big tough guys, but they don't even like to be pricked on the finger to give blood."

Commissioner Roger Goodell has said repeatedly since taking office just before the 2006 season that the league would implement a test for HGH as soon as one was found.

Upshaw's stance is similar to the one taken by baseball, which has pledged to adopt any validated urine test but does not want to test blood.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3225163

So yeah, agreeing to a validated HGH test that detects the substance in urine for up to 2 weeks but turning down a questionable and controversial test that MAYBE detects the substance for 48 hrs is shying away from better testing?

“Dr. Watson has done thousands of weigh-in physicals and done thousands of fights. He’s viewed tons of medical records. What Dr. Watson was kind of saying was that on some occasions with fighters, he would notice hematomas on the inside of the elbow where they gave blood,” he was quoted by Fanhouse as saying.

From the NSAC meeting with USADA officials about their testing regime^

Not to mention nicked veins, paresthesia, infection.

Educate yourself, then type.

I'm not saying that HGH blood testing would be better than HGH urine testing. If it can detect for a longer amount of time, then great. Right now, it can't.

It does detect HGH in blood testing. The window is slim because of how fast it gets out of the system, that's how HGH works I'm pretty sure. If the Urine testing can detect for a longer period, great, but people like Conte have said that HGH gets out of your system fast.

Also, Gene Upshaw was uneducated on the matter. He was stubborn and had no evidence to prove that blood testing was harmful besides the "Oh man there might be an infection" and "Our big tough guys don't like to be pricked in the finger"

Well tough ****. The current blood testing is the best method out there and it should be implemented for the time being. The testing is safe.

This isn't the 80s anymore, science has gotten a lot better. Give me an example from the Olympics, where they use USADA, where an athlete had to pull out because their blood testing has gone wrong.

[tangalog2200]

Do you mean USADA?

HGH test would track use for up to two weeks

A ******ia company claims to have a urine-based test for human growth hormone that could be used to drug test athletes two weeks after its use, rather than 48 hours or less.

The company, Ceres Nanosciences, says the test eliminates the need for blood tests to detect HGH. Players' associations have pushed back on blood tests. Ceres says its test can be available within six months, through the World Anti-Doping Agency.

The story was first reported by the Washington Business Journal.

Current tests track HGH use only within the past 48 hours. The two-week test, and having it be urine-based, would theoretically make it harder for athletes to evade an HGH test.

A WADA spokesman said the organization is encouraging Ceres to continue researching the test. No worldwide studies have been conducted.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3504036

That was from '08- all the worldwide baseline tests and such have been conducted and the test is now in the process of being developed for commercial use. Once that happens, all the major U.S. players' associations will adopt it and so will USADA/WADA, and the latter will eliminate the obsolete blood tests.

As for NSAC, they've instituted random drug testing, both in and out of competition/training camp.

maybe i got it wrongly...................

my focus was on the nevada funding.....

your posts on the testing parameters are very good though...

cheers

[Reloaded]

make it a rule, have everybody in every fight do it
otherwise, it's ******ed

Thats over kill and throwing a lot of money away much like racehorse testing all runners when they only need to test the winners and place getters and favorites that perform really badly , its more economical to test the guys with the most to gain , I would like to see in the very least all World and National title fights tested .

It seems that Nevada Commission are very aware that the current system is lacking .

[ModernTalking]

Floyd has changed the game..........

The only game that Floyd changed was DUCKING. Floyd took DUCKING to a new level. You're still nothing but a flip flop F@g though.

[ThePrince]

Boxingscene is slacking hard these days

Nevada to begin random drug tests

The Nevada State Athletic Commission is once again in position to randomly drug test licensed fighters who are out-of-competition. Regular testing of athletes is expected to start this month.

The commission has had the authority to randomly test its athletes since 2008, but financial restrictions have limited its ability to do so since 2009. That changed last month, when Gov. Brian Sandoval signed into law a bill that will feed close to $200,000 into the state's program during the next two years.

"We have the money this month, so I would be surprised if we didn't do some tests in July," Keith Kizer, executive director of NSAC, told ESPN.com. "Each test runs right around $200, so when it's all said and done, we'll test a pretty good chunk."

Out-of-competition testing provides the commission a strong tool to catch athletes who are abusing banned substances during training camps. Typically, fighters are tested the week of competition, which allows time to cycle off certain supplements.

Although all licensed fighters are fair game to be tested, Kizer said the commission would likely focus on those who have a fight scheduled in Nevada within the next two months, as those are the ones most likely to be using.


"From my understanding, about 4-to-6 weeks out is the best time to test somebody for steroids or similar substances because that's probably when they're at their peak," Kizer said.

The NSAC is aware, however, the more predictable testing schedules are, the easier it will be for athletes to navigate around them.

To counter that, the commission will vary the timing of the tests as well as test fighters who might not have a fight scheduled at all or are scheduled to fight in another state.

"We don't want to be stationary with these tests," Kizer said. "If a guy is a user but has no fight coming up, he might not be on it. So, we want to test them when they're planning to use.

"But, we'll probably have a few guys who may have fought a couple months earlier we'll call up. They might say, 'What the hell?' but I don't care. They're going in."

Should a case come up where a fighter fails a drug test and is scheduled to compete in another state, the athlete would have the right to a hearing before the NSAC ruled on a suspension. Although it would be case by case, chances are the fighter would be pulled from his scheduled fight.

"It wouldn't be an automatic prohibition of them fighting somewhere else," said Kizer, regarding that situation. "But I can say on the flip side, if it happened in another state and was brought to our attention, they wouldn't be fighting here."

Any licensed athlete that does not comply with a random drug test request would not be automatically suspended, but would have to explain his or her circumstances to the commission.

"If you don't do it, that can be used against you," Kizer said. "You're going to have to explain why and if you have no explanation, you'll be denied a license for failing to comply."

The program was put to use in 2008 and early 2009 before funds dried out. During that time, 100 percent of the athletes who were randomly selected took the test and passed. The list included high-profile names such as Brock Lesnar, Tito Ortiz, B.J. Penn, and boxing champions Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

All results of the random tests will be available on public record, according to Kizer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/...ory?id=6747430

I wonder if the Nevada commission will become a WADA Code signatory. That might add even more funding to their program and make OST UNIVERSAL and truly random. I'm sure they'd lobby to add lidocaine to the list of banned substances as well.

[Carpe Diem]

Boxingscene is slacking hard these days

Nevada to begin random drug tests

The Nevada State Athletic Commission is once again in position to randomly drug test licensed fighters who are out-of-competition. Regular testing of athletes is expected to start this month.

The commission has had the authority to randomly test its athletes since 2008, but financial restrictions have limited its ability to do so since 2009. That changed last month, when Gov. Brian Sandoval signed into law a bill that will feed close to $200,000 into the state's program during the next two years.

"We have the money this month, so I would be surprised if we didn't do some tests in July," Keith Kizer, executive director of NSAC, told ESPN.com. "Each test runs right around $200, so when it's all said and done, we'll test a pretty good chunk."

Out-of-competition testing provides the commission a strong tool to catch athletes who are abusing banned substances during training camps. Typically, fighters are tested the week of competition, which allows time to cycle off certain supplements.

Although all licensed fighters are fair game to be tested, Kizer said the commission would likely focus on those who have a fight scheduled in Nevada within the next two months, as those are the ones most likely to be using.


"From my understanding, about 4-to-6 weeks out is the best time to test somebody for steroids or similar substances because that's probably when they're at their peak," Kizer said.

The NSAC is aware, however, the more predictable testing schedules are, the easier it will be for athletes to navigate around them.

To counter that, the commission will vary the timing of the tests as well as test fighters who might not have a fight scheduled at all or are scheduled to fight in another state.

"We don't want to be stationary with these tests," Kizer said. "If a guy is a user but has no fight coming up, he might not be on it. So, we want to test them when they're planning to use.

"But, we'll probably have a few guys who may have fought a couple months earlier we'll call up. They might say, 'What the hell?' but I don't care. They're going in."

Should a case come up where a fighter fails a drug test and is scheduled to compete in another state, the athlete would have the right to a hearing before the NSAC ruled on a suspension. Although it would be case by case, chances are the fighter would be pulled from his scheduled fight.

"It wouldn't be an automatic prohibition of them fighting somewhere else," said Kizer, regarding that situation. "But I can say on the flip side, if it happened in another state and was brought to our attention, they wouldn't be fighting here."

Any licensed athlete that does not comply with a random drug test request would not be automatically suspended, but would have to explain his or her circumstances to the commission.

"If you don't do it, that can be used against you," Kizer said. "You're going to have to explain why and if you have no explanation, you'll be denied a license for failing to comply."

The program was put to use in 2008 and early 2009 before funds dried out. During that time, 100 percent of the athletes who were randomly selected took the test and passed. The list included high-profile names such as Brock Lesnar, Tito Ortiz, B.J. Penn, and boxing champions Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

All results of the random tests will be available on public record, according to Kizer.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/...ory?id=6747430

I wonder if the Nevada commission will become a WADA Code signatory. That might add even more funding to their program and make OST UNIVERSAL and truly random. I'm sure they'd lobby to add lidocaine to the list of banned substances as well.

That's great to hear. Will it be only random urine testing for now?

[BoZz]