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  • ThePrince
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    #11
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    Not sure what part of "Live event admission ticket" you dont understand
    Just wondering if they could count PPVs. When you pay for a PPV, you're paying to watch a live event, only difference between a regular ticket is that you're not actually at the stadium, arena, etc. I wonder if the wording allows them to tax PPV and/or closed circuit.
    Mr. Tygart suggested several options of how the state could pay for these tests including PPV and casino revenues. Using the Mayweather-Mosley fight as an example, Tygart suggested that $1 dollar from every PPV could have generated enough income to pay for a drug testing program for the next few years.

    The money's there. It's just a matter of priorities. Adding a $1 dollar 'integrity and sport contribution' onto the PPV fee, could have generated 1.4 million dollars. That would effectively run an anti-doping program for 5 years.

    http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...#ixzz1RAndH0tP

    If there is language strictly prohibiting the fees being attached to PPVs or language not supporting it specifically, I think there should be an ********* to the bill to make it happen.

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    • DoktorSleepless
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jack Napier
      make it a rule, have everybody in every fight do it
      otherwise, it's ******ed
      It's too expensive to be practical for every fight. Andre Ward did some research on it and said it costs $50k to $100k for 7 to 8 weeks of random testing for both fighters. Most fights don't even pull in that much money.

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      • ThePrince
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        #13
        Where are all the Google University PED experts at? You guys spend thousands of hours and man power on the 'take the test' nonsense, but now that Nevada has a truly random program (ie, not just during training camp), no one has anything to say?

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        • Pinoy4ever
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          #14
          This what Pacquiao said so Floyd Jr can't make excuses with the OST.

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          • warp1432
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            #15
            Originally posted by ThePrince
            No, not at all.

            Program's been in place since 2008 AKA when Floyd was 'retired', just ran out of money. This bill just funds the program. Get that vacation *** out your mouth.



            Nah, they'll just do what the NFL, MLB, NBA, etc is doing- wait for the HGH urine test that's being developed by USADA/Ceres Nanosciences to become commercially available. The blood test is iffy at best and can only detect the substance for 48 hrs, if at all.

            The urine test can detect the substance for up to 2 weeks.
            The blood test isn't iffy. It's the HGH that can get out of your system in 48 hours, not the blood test I'm pretty sure. USADA holds on to samples for a long time to test afterwards too. They wouldn't do that if the testing was useless.

            edit: And the NFL wants to incorporate HGH blood testing too by the way.
            Last edited by warp1432; 07-04-2011, 05:11 PM.

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            • Russian Crushin
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              #16
              Originally posted by ThePrince
              Just wondering if they could count PPVs. When you pay for a PPV, you're paying to watch a live event, only difference between a regular ticket is that you're not actually at the stadium, arena, etc. I wonder if the wording allows them to tax PPV and/or closed circuit.
              Mr. Tygart suggested several options of how the state could pay for these tests including PPV and casino revenues. Using the Mayweather-Mosley fight as an example, Tygart suggested that $1 dollar from every PPV could have generated enough income to pay for a drug testing program for the next few years.

              The money's there. It's just a matter of priorities. Adding a $1 dollar 'integrity and sport contribution' onto the PPV fee, could have generated 1.4 million dollars. That would effectively run an anti-doping program for 5 years.

              http://www.examiner.com/fight-sports...#ixzz1RAndH0tP

              If there is language strictly prohibiting the fees being attached to PPVs or language not supporting it specifically, I think there should be an ********* to the bill to make it happen.
              Thats just some suggested BS from Tygart

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              • ThePrince
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                #17
                Originally posted by warp1432
                The blood test isn't iffy. It's the HGH that can get out of your system in 48 hours, not the blood test I'm pretty sure. USADA holds on to samples for a long time to test afterwards too. They wouldn't do that if the testing was useless.
                If the blood test wasn't iffy, then USADA wouldn't have funded the urine test research. If it truly was the gold standard, they would've just gone with it as is. The effectiveness of the blood test has been called into question by ALL of the players' associations of professional sports leagues in the U.S.

                USADA to help fund HGH urine test

                There's a reason they're funding the development of the new test. It's MUCH more effective.

                Thats just some suggested BS from Tygart
                Don't see how it's BS...

                If they can add a $1 fee to a $50 ticket, why can't they add a $1 fee to a $50 PPV purchase? Tygart claims an OST program can be funded for 10 years with the sort of buys Floyd-Mosley did, meaning that Mosley's fights with Floyd and Manny would've funded the program for 2 decades on their own.

                What's wrong with UNIVERSAL, TRULY RANDOM testing that can be easily funded with a $1 fee/ticket and PPV purchase?
                Last edited by ThePrince; 07-04-2011, 05:21 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ThePrince
                  If the blood test wasn't iffy, then USADA wouldn't have funded the urine test research. If it truly was the gold standard, they would've just gone with it as is. The effectiveness of the blood test has been called into question by ALL of the players' associations of professional sports leagues in the U.S.

                  USADA to help fund HGH urine test

                  There's a reason they're funding the development of the new test. It's MUCH more effective.
                  Of course the players are going to be opposed to better testing, why would they want to expose themselves? Just because there might be a better way to test (which urine could be, I'm not saying its a bad way. If they find a way to test for it, great. Right now there's not an effective method for it) doesn't mean the current method that USADA uses is useless.

                  Blood testing is very safe and doesn't harm a fly. There is no physical disadvantage to getting blood drawn. There isn't.

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                  • Blubba
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ThePrince
                    Shocked Boxingscene didn't cover this.

                    Nevada Senate Bill No. 498
                    Nevada Governor Signs Law Funding Boxer Drug Tests

                    CARSON CITY, Nev. -- More money will be available to test boxers and mixed martial arts fighters in Nevada for steroids.

                    ********** Gov. Brian Sandoval on Wednesday signed a law allowing money from an existing ticket fee to pay for random drug screenings at any time including training periods. Current law attaches a fee to tickets for live professional fights. The Nevada Athletic Commission gets $1 per person for large events and 50 cents for smaller fights that gross less than $500,000. The money goes to grants to support organizations promoting amateur fights in Nevada. The new law allows the athletic commission to divert some of the money to test amateur or professional fighters for performance-enhancing drugs that create an unfair advantage.

                    It goes into effect July 1.

                    http://www.8newsnow.com/story/149207...xer-drug-tests

                    I wonder if PPV sales are included in the 'live event admission ticket' thing. If so, then Pacquiao-Marquez, Mayweather-Ortiz, and Cotto-Margarito later on this year could fund the random testing program for about 15 years.
                    none of this means jack ****

                    sounds to me like its another money making way for kizer to bleed more dollars out of the promoters and boxers.

                    didnt kizer said neveda's test are already more than adaquate so he aint ever gonna change the procedure. this is just a one-up with the governer so they can make more money. lol

                    nothing to see here. business as usual

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ThePrince
                      If the blood test wasn't iffy, then USADA wouldn't have funded the urine test research. If it truly was the gold standard, they would've just gone with it as is. The effectiveness of the blood test has been called into question by ALL of the players' associations of professional sports leagues in the U.S.

                      USADA to help fund HGH urine test

                      There's a reason they're funding the development of the new test. It's MUCH more effective.



                      Don't see how it's BS...

                      If they can add a $1 fee to a $50 ticket, why can't they add a $1 fee to a $50 PPV purchase? Tygart claims an OST program can be funded for 10 years with the sort of buys Floyd-Mosley did, meaning that Mosley's fights with Floyd and Manny would've funded the program for 2 decades on their own.

                      What's wrong with UNIVERSAL, TRULY RANDOM testing that can be easily funded with a $1 fee/ticket and PPV purchase?
                      so does this means nsac is in the process, just sort of fund transfer, to improve the urine testing already in place????

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