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  • lfc19titles
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    Be real, Give wlad his just dues, not over or less

    I see threads proclaiming wlat to be the best heavyweight, I see threads saying he is a top 5 heavy atg, I see threads saying haye did not try, I see threads saying haye was a nothing win

    Why is there no middle ground on this forum

    This was a very good win for wlad, No this does not make him the best or an atg heavyweight, 1 very good win does not do that. You are only good as the guys you beat, I think wlad deserves all the credit in the world and this is coming from a huge haye fans, all though I found his Toe excuse rather annoying.

    Time to clear up myths

    for those saying haye came for a pay check, get a reality check, he threw huge bombs in the first two-three rounds, wlad said that but he landed very little because every time haye threw, not only did he had to reach out far, wlad also took 1-2 steps back AND also waved the punches like khan did vs maidana

    This made hayes shots landed very loosely, he never connected flush until the third and twelth round, I though haye was going to knock wlad out when he landed in the 12th, he was hurt for sure but wlad had a plan for everything. If he got hurt, he grabbed and made sure Haye could not throw, the ref was a piece of trash and everyone knows that, he was stewards puppet sadly

    The next myth is that Haye was defensive, again what you people fail to realise is haye looked defensive because wlad made him look like it, his defence was that good as I explained above that haye was landing very little, this made haye throw less and look for the openings, haye had the wrong game plan and wlad had the perfect plan

    Nobody is giving wlad credit for making haye look like he was in 2nd gear

    Another myth of haye running all night, those who say that, just never watch boxing again, fighting on the back foot is not running.

    Myth that wlad jab jab and grabbed, he only grabbed when haye landed on him came in close, mayweather and hatton did that. Mayweather would have got knocked out if he didnt grab against mosley. Wlad did the same, he would have probably got knocked out if he let haye hit him and not grab him

    What does this win do for Wlad


    It should certainly put him behind Pac and Mayweather as the number 3 p4p, possibly 4th but that is debatable, that is all it should do

    It does not make wlad the only good heavy picking on bums, it does not make him the best ever, it makes him a class heavyweight

    How he will be defined when he retires is still to be seen as he is in his prime right now

    If he wants to increase his rankings, he needs to be smart, help build up haye again and then promise him a fight, if he wins his stock rises, there arent any good heavies bar haye and the brothers who are fit and proper fighters

    Wlad deserves all the credit in the world, not over the top, not under, he proved his class and is top 5 p4p

    thats what the fight did for him

    I made this thread because I promised freedom I would give wlad his dues, I dont care about the other klit fans who have been running it
    Last edited by lfc19titles; 07-03-2011, 01:56 PM.
  • edgarg
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    #2
    Originally posted by lfc19titles
    I see threads proclaiming wlat to be the best heavyweight, I see threads saying he is a top 5 heavy atg, I see threads saying haye did not try, I see threads saying haye was a nothing win

    Why is there no middle ground on this forum

    This was a very good win for wlad, No this does not make him the best or an atg heavyweight, 1 very good win does not do that. You are only good as the guys you beat, I think wlad deserves all the credit in the world and this is coming from a huge haye fans, all though I found his Toe excuse rather annoying.

    Time to clear up myths

    for those saying haye came for a pay check, get a reality check, he threw huge bombs in the first two-three rounds, wlad said that but he landed very little because every time haye threw, not only did he had to reach out far, wlad also took 1-2 steps back AND also waved the punches like khan did vs maidana

    This made hayes shots landed very loosely, he never connected flush until the third and twelth round, I though haye was going to knock wlad out when he landed in the 12th, he was hurt for sure but wlad had a plan for everything. If he got hurt, he grabbed and made sure Haye could not throw, the ref was a piece of trash and everyone knows that, he was stewards puppet sadly

    The next myth is that Haye was defensive, again what you people fail to realise is haye looked defensive because wlad made him look like it, his defence was that good as I explained above that haye was landing very little, this made haye throw less and look for the openings, haye had the wrong game plan and wlad had the perfect plan

    Nobody is giving wlad credit for making haye look like he was in 2nd gear

    Another myth of haye running all night, those who say that, just never watch boxing again, fighting on the back foot is not running.

    Myth that wlad jab jab and grabbed, he only grabbed when haye landed on him came in close, mayweather and hatton did that. Mayweather would have got knocked out if he didnt grab against mosley. Wlad did the same, he would have probably got knocked out if he let haye hit him and not grab him

    What does this win do for Wlad


    It should certainly put him behind Pac and Mayweather as the number 3 p4p, possibly 4th but that is debatable, that is all it should do

    It does not make wlad the only good heavy picking on bums, it does not make him the best ever, it makes him a class heavyweight

    How he will be defined when he retires is still to be seen as he is in his prime right now

    If he wants to increase his rankings, he needs to be smart, help build up haye again and then promise him a fight, if he wins his stock rises, there arent any good heavies bar haye and the brothers who are fit and proper fighters

    Wlad deserves all the credit in the world, not over the top, not under, he proved his class and is top 5 p4p

    thats what the fight did for him

    I made this thread because I promised freedom I would give wlad his dues, I dont care about the other klit fans who have been running it
    Yes you are a true sportsman and give due when and where deserved. All the same, I query your comment that the ref was in Stewards pocket. Didn't you see Steward shoutihg and telling off the ref when he took a point from Klitschko because Haye kept dropping all those times he was touched?? There could have been at least 2 more counts there.

    The only thing that bothered me about this fight, was that Klitschko did not KO Haye in the
    12th as he had been promising. That would have been a perfect ending and shown his obvious domination in the most spectacular way.

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    • project xxx1
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      #3
      you should quit nsb for six months

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      • Pirao
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        #4
        So this win doesn't make Wlad an ATG, but Haye would have been an ATG had he won? Doubke standards much?

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        • Tha_Greatest
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          #5
          go **** yourself and then go give david gaye some more head cause as soon as david wins another fight against any sorry soda machine vendor, lol, you know youre gonna be the first person with his pants down(from david gaye bull**** and david gaye penetration as u do so well,lol,) telling everybody that david is gonna k.o vitali klitschko, mlol, nyahahahaha

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          • Jedi Vader
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            #6
            Originally posted by lfc19titles
            I see threads proclaiming wlat to be the best heavyweight, I see threads saying he is a top 5 heavy atg, I see threads saying haye did not try, I see threads saying haye was a nothing win

            Why is there no middle ground on this forum

            This was a very good win for wlad, No this does not make him the best or an atg heavyweight, 1 very good win does not do that. You are only good as the guys you beat, I think wlad deserves all the credit in the world and this is coming from a huge haye fans, all though I found his Toe excuse rather annoying.

            Time to clear up myths

            for those saying haye came for a pay check, get a reality check, he threw huge bombs in the first two-three rounds, wlad said that but he landed very little because every time haye threw, not only did he had to reach out far, wlad also took 1-2 steps back AND also waved the punches like khan did vs maidana

            This made hayes shots landed very loosely, he never connected flush until the third and twelth round, I though haye was going to knock wlad out when he landed in the 12th, he was hurt for sure but wlad had a plan for everything. If he got hurt, he grabbed and made sure Haye could not throw, the ref was a piece of trash and everyone knows that, he was stewards puppet sadly

            The next myth is that Haye was defensive, again what you people fail to realise is haye looked defensive because wlad made him look like it, his defence was that good as I explained above that haye was landing very little, this made haye throw less and look for the openings, haye had the wrong game plan and wlad had the perfect plan

            Nobody is giving wlad credit for making haye look like he was in 2nd gear

            Another myth of haye running all night, those who say that, just never watch boxing again, fighting on the back foot is not running.

            Myth that wlad jab jab and grabbed, he only grabbed when haye landed on him came in close, mayweather and hatton did that. Mayweather would have got knocked out if he didnt grab against mosley. Wlad did the same, he would have probably got knocked out if he let haye hit him and not grab him

            What does this win do for Wlad


            It should certainly put him behind Pac and Mayweather as the number 3 p4p, possibly 4th but that is debatable, that is all it should do

            It does not make wlad the only good heavy picking on bums, it does not make him the best ever, it makes him a class heavyweight

            How he will be defined when he retires is still to be seen as he is in his prime right now

            If he wants to increase his rankings, he needs to be smart, help build up haye again and then promise him a fight, if he wins his stock rises, there arent any good heavies bar haye and the brothers who are fit and proper fighters

            Wlad deserves all the credit in the world, not over the top, not under, he proved his class and is top 5 p4p

            thats what the fight did for him

            I made this thread because I promised freedom I would give wlad his dues, I dont care about the other klit fans who have been running it
            A very good post.

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            • Tha_Greatest
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              #7
              Originally posted by Jedi Vader
              A very good post.

              ifc19titles gives real good head, lol, david haye told me this and ifc19tiles gives the worst post that are not floyd related , lol, that being said, this is a **** azz thread where the closer has to kiss everyones azz so they can stop ****ing laughing at his ****** azz, lol, nyahahaha like i said, once davids bitsh azz beats another bum, lol, youll see ifc19titles saying david haye will beat vitali with his speed and all this bullsht, lol, nyahahaha ifc19titles might be on crack at this moment getting high with david gaye, lol, nyahahaha
              Last edited by Tha_Greatest; 07-04-2011, 04:11 AM. Reason: for spaces

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              • Tha_Greatest
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                #8
                Originally posted by lfc19titles
                I see threads proclaiming wlat to be the best heavyweight, I see threads saying he is a top 5 heavy atg, I see threads saying haye did not try, I see threads saying haye was a nothing win

                Why is there no middle ground on this forum

                This was a very good win for wlad, No this does not make him the best or an atg heavyweight, 1 very good win does not do that. You are only good as the guys you beat, I think wlad deserves all the credit in the world and this is coming from a huge haye fans, all though I found his Toe excuse rather annoying.

                Time to clear up myths

                for those saying haye came for a pay check, get a reality check, he threw huge bombs in the first two-three rounds, wlad said that but he landed very little because every time haye threw, not only did he had to reach out far, wlad also took 1-2 steps back AND also waved the punches like khan did vs maidana

                This made hayes shots landed very loosely, he never connected flush until the third and twelth round, I though haye was going to knock wlad out when he landed in the 12th, he was hurt for sure but wlad had a plan for everything. If he got hurt, he grabbed and made sure Haye could not throw, the ref was a piece of trash and everyone knows that, he was stewards puppet sadly

                The next myth is that Haye was defensive, again what you people fail to realise is haye looked defensive because wlad made him look like it, his defence was that good as I explained above that haye was landing very little, this made haye throw less and look for the openings, haye had the wrong game plan and wlad had the perfect plan

                Nobody is giving wlad credit for making haye look like he was in 2nd gear

                Another myth of haye running all night, those who say that, just never watch boxing again, fighting on the back foot is not running.

                Myth that wlad jab jab and grabbed, he only grabbed when haye landed on him came in close, mayweather and hatton did that. Mayweather would have got knocked out if he didnt grab against mosley. Wlad did the same, he would have probably got knocked out if he let haye hit him and not grab him

                What does this win do for Wlad

                It should certainly put him behind Pac and Mayweather as the number 3 p4p, possibly 4th but that is debatable, that is all it should do

                It does not make wlad the only good heavy picking on bums, it does not make him the best ever, it makes him a class heavyweight

                How he will be defined when he retires is still to be seen as he is in his prime right now

                If he wants to increase his rankings, he needs to be smart, help build up haye again and then promise him a fight, if he wins his stock rises, there arent any good heavies bar haye and the brothers who are fit and proper fighters

                Wlad deserves all the credit in the world, not over the top, not under, he proved his class and is top 5 p4p

                thats what the fight did for him

                I made this thread because I promised freedom I would give wlad his dues, I dont care about the other klit fans who have been running it
                u r gay, bumped so you can get laughed at for swallowing davids cokk

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                • FrankieBruno
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                  #9
                  good post agree with most of what you said

                  however haye should have taken more risks like he did in the 12th and 3rd

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #10
                    Im dissapointed with Wlad performance. I hardly saw hayes head jolted back at all, and it was hard to score the fight as it was hard to see Wlads punches land.

                    Hayes face was hardly a pizza face as well.

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