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  • Trouble in Jermain Taylor's camp???

    News out of Arkansas about JT's return is all over the map, with Pat Burns refusing to comment other than to say the situation has changed since his interview with Dan Rafael last week, confirmation that his business manager left him, and one story reporting that he will be promoted by Lou Dibella, while another says that Memphis-based Prize Fight will promote his return bout.

    Here are some of the local stories from the past few days:

    Details muddled for Taylor’s return
    By Matthew Harris, Arkansas ********-Gazette
    June 30, 2011

    LITTLE ROCK — Two days after news of a potential comeback emerged, details about former middleweight champion Jermain Taylor’s return remained scant Wednesday.

    And that might be putting it mildly.

    “A lot has changed in the past 24 hours,” said Miami-based trainer Pat Burns, who returns to the fold after being fired in 2006 by the Little Rock native. “At this point, I don’t have anything to say.”

    That tone was different than one struck Monday by Burns in comments to ESPN. com, which reported the 32-year-old Taylor is training with Burns and in talks with Showtime for an Aug. 13 bout in Little Rock.

    In the article, Burns said Taylor planned to return to the 160-pound middleweight division, where he claimed the world title nearly six years ago in Las Vegas after defeating Bernard Hopkins.

    The trainer also told ESPN.com that Taylor, who resumed training at a less than-svelte 197 pounds, had trimmed down to 164 with sparring sessions looming as the next step in the fighter’s training.

    But, potential opponents and the possibility of a splitsite card with Showtime, which is airing a two-bout bantamweight card the same night as Taylor’s scheduled fight, remain unknown. In fact, at this point it is not certain the fight will take place.

    In a phone interview Wednesday, Burns wouldn’t comment on when that information might be forthcoming.

    Taylor’s return to the ring has been clouded by two years of struggle after a move to the super middleweight division, where he lost four of five fights and was knocked out late in the 12th round of the final two.

    In October 2009, former middleweight champion Arthur Abraham knocked out Taylor in Berlin with a vicious straight right jab that sent Taylor to the floor, where he struck his head on the canvas, resulting in a concussion.

    It was a blow that put Taylor’s career on an unwanted two-year hiatus.

    Though able to conduct post-fight interviews, Lou Di-Bella, Taylor’s then promoter, was concerned by the fighter’s memory lapses and had him taken to a Berlin hospital, which stirred more questions in the days afterward about Taylor’s future in the sport.

    Two months later, DiBella parted ways with Taylor, a move the long-time promoter said at the time stemmed from health concerns over Taylor’s planned return in April 2010.

    “I hope that Jermain knows me well enough to know that I took no joy in this. I’m genuinely concerned about him and his well-being,” DiBella told the Arkansas ********-Gazette in December 2009.

    DiBella was not available for comment Wednesday.

    A month later, Taylor withdrew from a planned Super Six World Classic in April 2010, prompting speculation he planned to retire.

    In the aftermath of his loss to Abraham, Taylor sought an evaluation by Little Rock neurologist Scott Schlesinger. And before resuming his recent training, Burns required Taylor to get a second opinion from neurologists at a Mayo Clinic.

    “When it comes to a concussion, there is nothing like time,” Burns told ESPN about Taylor’s recovery. “He is still young and we all did a lot of research. The medical reports say he is at no greater risk than any other fighter.”

    But Burns would not comment Wednesday about specifics entailed in those reports or whether any potential opponents were hesitant to step into the ring with Taylor.

    Federal privacy laws forbid Schlesinger to comment on the extent, nature, treatment or side effects of Taylor’s injury, which reportedly caused some bleeding on the surface of the brain.

    In the interim, though, the nucleus of Team Taylor has deteriorated.

    DiBella’s exit was followed by the departure of business manager Andrew Meadors, who turned over control of Taylor’s finances to Taylor’s wife.

    “After 10 years together, Jermain and I parted ways last March,” Meadors said Tuesday. “It was time for me to get off the bus.”

    Asked whether concerns over Taylor’s health and advice to retire fueled his decision, Meadors said, “Boxing is a dangerous sport. I want the best for Jermain and his family, and I wish him the best in future endeavors.”

    Calls to Erica Taylor, the boxer’s wife, were not returned.

    In addition, Taylor let go of longtime coach and mentor Ozell Nelson, who coached the boxer since he was a teen and later retook the reins in Taylor’s final three fights, starting with an October 2008 victory over Jeff Lacy.

    Nelson also did not return calls seeking comment.

    In September 2007, Taylor lost his world title on a seventh-round knockout to No. 1 contender Kelly Pavlik. After a nontitle rematch loss to Pavlik, Taylor moved to the super middleweight division.

    “He should have never been at 168 pounds,” Burns told ESPN.
    Taylor comeback up in air
    By Harry King, Arkansas News Bureau
    July 1, 2011

    LITTLE ROCK — The trainer whose presence was such a positive sign for the comeback of Jermain Taylor may no longer be associated with the former middleweight champion.

    Based in Miami, Pat Burns did not return a phone call today, but there are signs that he and Taylor have parted ways only days after reports that they had gotten back together.

    If that is the case, the break-up could involve a variety of things, including the site of Taylor’s training camp and even Burns’ salary.

    It was Burns who rode herd on Taylor when he beat Bernard Hopkins for the middleweight championship in July 2005 and defended his title against Hopkins in December of that year.

    After Burns was fired in 2006, Emanuel Steward took over. Under him, Taylor scored two narrow victories, fought a draw and was knocked out. Ozell Nelson was the trainer when
    Taylor was knocked out by both Carl Froch and Arthur Abraham about six months apart.

    Taylor, 32, has not fought since suffering a concussion when knocked out by Abraham 20 months ago, but there was word this week that Burns had agreed to train Taylor for a comeback fight Aug. 13 in Arkansas.

    In the report by Dan Rafael of ESPN.com, Burns was clearly enthused about Taylor’s conditioning and commitment.

    A day after Rafael’s report, Burns was quoted as saying, “A lot has changed in the past 24 hours.”

    If Burns and Taylor have split, Taylor might turn to somebody familiar such as Danny Smith, an assistant to Nelson for both of Taylor’s last two fights.

    Taylor’s boxing license has lapsed and John Mattingly, secretary of the Arkansas State Athletic Commission, said Friday that Taylor had not applied for a new license. Mattingly said regulations required that the application be filed at least 30 days prior to the fight, so Taylor still has time.

    Mattingly also said the commission had not heard from a promoter about an Aug. 13 fight. At one point, Memphis-based Prize Fight was supposed to promote the Taylor fight at the Statehouse Convention Center in Little Rock.

  • #2
    This is from yesterday:

    Wheels locked on Taylor train
    By Matthew Harris, Arkansas ******** Gazette
    July 2, 2011

    LITTLE ROCK — The Arkansas State Athletic Commission will have to sign off on boxer Jermain Taylor’s return to the ring in Arkansas, but the obstacles do not appear insurmountable.

    ESPN reported Monday that Taylor has reunited with former trainer Pat Burns, and was training for a possible Aug. 13 fight against a yet-to-be determined opponent in Little Rock.

    That would leave about two weeks (July 13 for an Aug. 13 fight) for the Taylor camp to apply for an event license from the commission. “The onus is on the promoter,” said Johnny Mattingly, who is secretary of the seven-member commission. “The fighter just needs to apply before the event takes place.”

    Mattingly said the commission hasn’t been contacted by a promoter or other representatives of Taylor, a 32-year-old former middleweight champion who hasn’t fought since getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham in the 12th round of an October 2009 fight in Berlin.

    “The first we learned of it was when we read the paper this week,” Mattingly said.

    Burns told ESPN four days ago he was training Taylor for a bout, but Burns was reticent in a Wednesday interview with the ********-Gazette, and details about an opponent, promoter and television broadcast have not emerged.

    Taylor has been without a promoter since December 2009, when Lou DiBella quit over concerns about Taylor’s health. Taylor has lost four of his past five bouts, including consecutive 12th-round knockouts - by Carl Froch in April 2009 and Abraham six months later.

    A proposal for promoting the event, proof of insurance - including coverage of at least $10,000 for each fighter - and a surety bond underwriting any prize purses are part of the application process.

    “Depending on the extent of the promotion, we can require a higher amount, and the regulations allow that,” Mattingly said.

    Taylor must fill out a two page application, but with his signature, Taylor (28-4-1) also grants the full release of his medical records to the commission and opens the door to potential scrutiny of his health.

    “We have the right to request medical records or a CT scan, whatever’s necessary to make sure they’re healthy enough to fight,” Mattingly said. “But we don’t normally do that.”

    Taylor’s recent history could alter that stance.

    Taylor was hospitalized in Berlin and spent a week in Germany before returning to the United States.

    Taylor was evaluated by neurosurgeon Scott Schlesinger in the weeks after the fight, and he was recently checked out at a Mayo Clinic, which Burns told ESPN he set down as a condition to ensure Taylor was healthy to train.

    The commission might take extra care sanctioning Taylor in the aftermath of a boxing tragedy that occurred earlier this year.

    Anthony Jones, a 27-year old El Dorado boxer making his professional debut, died at UAMS Medical Center on Jan. 30 less than 12 hours after taking part in the “Benton Beatdown.”

    Jones’ primary cause of death, according to a state medical examiner’s report, was listed as a concussion suffered during a second-round knockout.

    Cardiomyopathy and dehydration were named as contributing factors along with rhabdomyolysis, a breaking down of muscles that can result in kidney failure.

    Asked whether Jones’ death and Taylor’s injury history might affect the decision to review medical records, Mattingly said: “Yes, sir. Anytime anything happens like that you try to prevent that again. You’re always asking yourself what might we have done. That’s what we’re doing now.”
    And this today, claiming that DiBella was chasing down a 38 year old, blown-up welterweight as his comeback opponent:
    Rivera turns down fight against Jermain Taylor
    By Bud Barth, TELEGRAM & GAZETTE
    July 3, 2011

    WORCESTER — Three-time world champion José Antonio Rivera, who spent most of his career as a 147-pound welterweight before moving up to junior middleweight (154), has nixed a proposal to fight former undisputed middleweight champion Jermain Taylor at a catch weight of between 163 and 165 pounds.

    The 38-year-old Rivera, who came out of retirement in May after 2-1/2 years on the sidelines, said he was contacted earlier this month by Lou DiBella, Taylor’s promoter, with the idea.

    The fight would have been held Aug. 13 at the DCU Center’s 14,800-seat main hall, and would have been televised live by Showtime.

    The card would have also included Worcester’s unbeaten super middleweight, Edwin Rodriguez, although his bout would not have been televised.

    DiBella reportedly still is trying to set up an Aug. 13 fight for Taylor, who hasn’t fought in almost two years, but now it would be in the boxer’s hometown of Little Rock, Ark. The date is two days after Taylor’s 33rd birthday.

    Taylor’s last four fights have been at super middleweight (168 pounds), but he would have come down slightly to accommodate Rivera. Still, even 163 pounds would be eight pounds more than Rivera weighed (155) for his comeback fight in May, and would have put him at a huge disadvantage.

    “I said ‘no thanks,’ ” Rivera admitted. “I didn’t even bother to ask how much the fight is worth. … I understand that Lou DiBella has to do what is best for his fighters and get them the best matchups, but I have to do what is best for me.

    “Maybe, down the line, after I have a couple more fights and he wants to offer me Jermain Taylor at 160 pounds, we can do business together. That would interest me a lot.”

    Rivera (40-6-1, 24 KOs) has said he will eventually move up to middleweight (160), but he’s not there yet.

    Four of Rivera’s six losses have been to junior middleweights — Daniel Santos, Travis Simms, Robert Frazier and Pat Coleman. The only welterweights to beat him were crafty veteran Willy Wise and young upstart Luis Collazo.

    Taylor (28-4-1, 17 KOs), who in 2005 held all four major middleweight title belts (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO), is probably looking for some easy pickings after losing his last two fights and four of his last five.

    All of those losses were to fighters who were unbeaten at the time — former WBC/WBO middleweight champ Kelly Pavlik twice, current WBC super middleweight champ Carl Froch, and ex-IBF middleweight champ Arthur Abraham.

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    • #3
      This from yesterday also, speculating that the Taylor-Burns relationship may have again severed:
      Taylor-Burns Situation Changing Quickly
      By Harry King Arkansas News Bureau | Posted: Saturday, July 2, 2011 8:00 am
      LITTLE ROCK - The trainer whose presence was such a positive sign for the comeback of Jermain Taylor may no longer be associated with the former middleweight champion.

      Based in Miami, Pat Burns did not return a phone call on Friday, but there are signs that he and Taylor have parted ways only days after reports that they had gotten back together.

      If that is the case, the break-up could involve a variety of things, including the site of Taylor's training camp and even Burns' salary.
      It was Burns who rode herd on Taylor when he beat Bernard Hopkins for the middleweight championship in July 2005 and defended his title against Hopkins in December of that year.

      After Burns was fired in 2006, Emanuel Steward took over. Under him, Taylor scored two narrow victories, fought a draw and was knocked out. Ozell Nelson was the trainer when Taylor was knocked out by both Carl Froch and Arthur Abraham about six months apart.

      Taylor, 32, has not fought since suffering a concussion when knocked out by Abraham 20 months ago, but there was word this week that Burns had agreed to train Taylor for a comeback fight Aug. 13 in Arkansas.

      In the report by Dan Rafael of ESPN.com, Burns was clearly enthused about Taylor's conditioning and commitment.

      A day after Rafael's report, Burns was quoted as saying, "A lot has changed in the past 24 hours."

      If Burns and Taylor have split, Taylor might turn to somebody familiar such as Danny Smith, an assistant to Nelson for both of Taylor's last two fights.

      Taylor's boxing license has lapsed and John Mattingly, secretary of the Arkansas State Athletic Commission, said Friday that Taylor had not applied for a new license. Mattingly said regulations required that the application be filed at least 30 days prior to the fight, so Taylor still has time.

      Mattingly also said the commission had not heard from a promoter about an Aug. 13 fight. At one point, Memphis-based Prize Fight was supposed to promote the Taylor fight at the Statehouse Convention Center in Little Rock.

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      • #4
        Hope JT is doing well. They are right about concussions. A pro fighter should take a minimum of one year off if he has suffered a severe concussion. Not many people know this but there is actually a difference btw being concussed and KO'd clean and cold. It's actually better to get a clean snap KO than to be concussed.

        I would be careful if i was JT, he is fine now but two or three more concussions can lead to problems later down the road, such as persistent migraines and the nausea and blurred vision that comes with that.

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        • #5
          The first one is ******. They said Showtime is airing a two-bout bantamweight card on Aug. 13. One of those fights already happened (Darchinyan-Perez).

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          • #6
            Originally posted by *Khan View Post
            The first one is ******. They said Showtime is airing a two-bout bantamweight card on Aug. 13. One of those fights already happened (Darchinyan-Perez).
            One of them also said that AA knocked out Taylor with a "straight right jab."

            These obviously aren't boxing reporters, but that doesn't change the facts about Taylor's situation.

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            • #7
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              • #8
                sorry jt hang them up

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the updates.

                  Sounds like chaos ruling in Taylor's camp. This comeback doesn't appear to be well thought out unfortunately.

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                  • #10
                    If Jermain fights in the Rock in August, I'm going for sure. I hope the Pat Burns situation gets straightened out, but it seems like that pairing isn't meant to be. If he can make 160 healthily, I have no problem with him giving the sport another go. Thanks for the info.

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