Remember guys, Haye can't win on points.

**Sparked_1985** · 07-02-2011, 09:03 AM

Haye will be out of punching range and passive for much of the fight if it goes that far.

It's unfeasible he wins on points, imo. I can't even imagine it.

**Guest** · 07-02-2011, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Sparked_1985

Haye will be out of punching range and passive for much of the fight if it goes that far.

It's unfeasible he wins on points, imo. I can't even imagine it.

Even if he lose by vicious ko, he really doesn't have to do much at all to still outperform Wlad's last 14 opponents or so.

I just don't see him winning either being on the outside and boxing then darting in.

Those who beat Wlad took it to him and got in close and blasted away.

If it goes the distance or even close, it's not going to be exciting in the least.

**Russian Crushin** · 07-02-2011, 09:07 AM

Hayes not gonna outboxed Vlad whether in the UK or Germany

**Va_BoriKua** · 07-02-2011, 09:09 AM

the fight could be anywhere and haye still wont win on points wlad>haye

**Sparked_1985** · 07-02-2011, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by jreckoning

Even if he lose by vicious ko, he really doesn't have to do much at all to still outperform Wlad's last 14 opponents or so.

I just don't see him winning either being on the outside and boxing then darting in.

Those who beat Wlad took it to him and got in close and blasted away.

If it goes the distance or even close, it's not going to be exciting in the least.

Rahman was the guy who upset me.

At 170 pound and a bit lanky and without any boxing ability I could have got closer to beating Wlad.

I just think Haye and Booth will bank exclusively on having a heavy speed advantage. Looking at Vitali against Solis. I think Haye would have that over Big Vit. Against Wlad, I dunno.

I'd think Haye will go out on his shield though.

**Squirrel** · 07-02-2011, 09:14 AM

Playing Devil's advocate here - what if Haye fought with the Valuev gameplan and had the majority of rounds similar to the 12th of said fight (with possible knockdowns)?

It's certainly unlikely but it's not infeasible. Haye might be able to deck Wlad with balance shots and taking him by surprise but might not wat or be able to clsoe the show.

**Scary** · 07-02-2011, 09:15 AM

I know that the possibily that he will actually win on points is as slim as wazaa's boxing knowledge but seriously doesn't it bother you that it's that way in germany?!

**Sparked_1985** · 07-02-2011, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by Squirrel

Playing Devil's advocate here - what if Haye fought with the Valuev gameplan and had the majority of rounds similar to the 12th of said fight (with possible knockdowns)?

It's certainly unlikely but it's not infeasible. Haye might be able to deck Wlad with balance shots and taking him by surprise but might not wat or be able to clsoe the show.

I think he will fight exactly that way.

But Valuev was a bit crappy, really. He showed no ambition to get Haye out of there, and just offered jabs that kept Haye halfway across the ring.

**Guest** · 07-02-2011, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Sparked_1985

I think he will fight exactly that way.

But Valuev was a bit crappy, really. He showed no ambition to get Haye out of there, and just offered jabs that kept Haye halfway across the ring.

The issue I see with that style is that Wlad feasts on those types.

He jabs them to death, they come in, he punishes, they move out he whacks them, he controls the distance against every boxer he faced.

It took Sanders acting like a brutal lion in the jungle and Brewster getting lucky with a hook to derail him.

Everyone was saying how fast Chambers was, and Wlad outspeeded him.

Wlad's speed is deceptive. He gets a lot off in quick fashion when he wants.

Those that think he's ponderous pay the price for a prolonged period.

Remember guys, Haye can't win on points.