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  • Toe Injury
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    #41
    why is this guy a well known boxing analyst? this is some **** an idiot on the forum would post

    "well it could be a good fight but it could be a boring fight cuz klitschko always wins and uhhh.. i hope its a good fight"

    wow! thanks doctor

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    • hugh grant
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      #42
      Bert Sugar, arent you the historian who rates Pac as the greatest southpaw ever and top 10 ATG?

      But sorry to dissapoint you, but i doubt klitscho cares about being exciting, as long as he beats Haye.

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      • ChopperRead
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        #43
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
        By your logic, one couldn't enjoy heavyweight boxing until the present day or they'd be a black fetishist. Except for a couple of brief periods, (American) blacks have dominated the heavyweight division for the past century. If you're following boxing now because a couple of white guys dominate the heavyweight division, you're not a boxing fan. You're a fan of the Klitschkos at best, and a racist at worst.
        I think I hear 'Kind of Blue" playing in the background when I read this post.

        Tyson was indeed an anomaly because he was a half-insane thug running on adrenaline and *******.

        Otherwise, the Klitschkos are just like any other fighters: some fights are better than others. Vitali always brings it, Wlad used to until he go together with Manny Steward. "Boring" is most often a code word for "I don't like these guys because they are white" with the Klitschkos. Especially when it's used as a blanket condemnation of the brothers, who don't really fight much like each other at all.
        Last edited by ChopperRead; 07-02-2011, 01:16 PM.

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        • Gumby McPokey
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          #44
          Originally posted by Gratide
          I like Sugar and bear him no ill will for his take on the K'S . YES they are methodical and have to be careful because they are both a little " chinny " . No one has been able to really take advantage of this for a long time .
          I don't know anyone who would call Vitali Klitschko "chinny". He has proven he has a rock for a head. Nor is he boring, when in the ring with someone who wants to brawl -- anyone who would trade bombs with Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders can hardly be called boring or safety-first.

          The two brothers look the same and talk the same, but in the ring they are vastly different. If there had been a few more recent heavyweights like Vitali (and if he could have stayed healthy), nobody would be saying the division was "boring". Wladimir is the one with the boring style.

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          • FrankieBruno
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            #45
            the most exciting fight a Klit has ever had is against Lennox

            there fights are boring simply because of the contenders, it takes two boxers to make a great fight. Styles make fights, thats why there is so much hype Haye vs Wlad simply because of the possible style clash

            Also if you are facing out of shape overweight bums then people start feeling "ripped" off and turn away from you.

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            • ChopperRead
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              #46
              Originally posted by Gratide
              I like Sugar and bear him no ill will for his take on the K'S . YES they are methodical and have to be careful because they are both a little " chinny " . No one has been able to really take advantage of this for a long time . I doubt Haye will either , he has WEAK chin and throws punches wide , talior made for a K jab . Looking forward to a fun afternoon and seeing Haye carried out of the ring . hoping he does some permenent damage to his vulgar MOUTH .
              The bolded statement proves that you don't know much about the Klitschko brothers. Vitali probably has the best chin in boxing.

              What we are getting today is a bunch of people drawn in by the Haye-Wlad fight who haven't even watched any Klitschko fights, or HW fights, either Wlad or Vitali, and are just repeating crap they've heard someone else like Burt Sugar say.
              Last edited by ChopperRead; 07-02-2011, 01:21 PM.

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                #47
                The man has seen some of the most exciting heavyweights ever so I'd think it'd be hard not to make relevant comparisons when overviewing Wladimir's resume. If Sugar feels the Klitchko brothers put on less than exciting bouts, I couldn't ascribe that to a black fetish.

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                • FrankieBruno
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by alembic
                  The man has seen some of the most exciting heavyweights ever so I'd think it'd be hard not to make relevant comparisons when overviewing Wladimir's resume. If Sugar feels the Klitchko brothers put on less than exciting bouts, I couldn't ascribe that to a black fetish.
                  Very true....

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                  • ChopperRead
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by FrankieBruno

                    Also if you are facing out of shape overweight bums then people start feeling "ripped" off and turn away from you.
                    Name the willing contenders the Klitschkos should have fought but haven't.

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                    • ChopperRead
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by alembic
                      The man has seen some of the most exciting heavyweights ever so I'd think it'd be hard not to make relevant comparisons when overviewing Wladimir's resume. If Sugar feels the Klitchko brothers put on less than exciting bouts, I couldn't ascribe that to a black fetish.
                      Funny how he doesn't drone on about all of Larry Holmes' boring fights and say he "has no legacy."

                      Sugar is an old bitter drunk who longs for his youth and his heroes.

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