Is Floyd ready for a loss?

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  • hebi
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ekscape
    you are either giving floyd way to much credit or ortiz way to little... Ortiz is a young hungry fighter, who happens to be a southpaw (something that has given floyd trouble in the past) and also happens to have single punch knockout power in both hands... to say he has "no chance" is ridiculous... I'm gonna have to say you probably hate floyd and are trying to discredit his opposition, am i right?
    Exactly. Great post.

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    • chiguy91
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      #12
      well he's gonna have to be cause hopefully ortiz backs up his talk. he got the belt, it'd be a shame if he just handed it over. i really think ortiz has a good shot at beating floyd. even if floyd loses, he can still go out and fight cotto, berto, martinez, and canelo. he can even get the pacquiao fight still imo.

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      • Jack Napier
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ekscape
        you are either giving floyd way to much credit or ortiz way to little... Ortiz is a young hungry fighter, who happens to be a southpaw (something that has given floyd trouble in the past) and also happens to have single punch knockout power in both hands... to say he has "no chance" is ridiculous... I'm gonna have to say you probably hate floyd and are trying to discredit his opposition, am i right?
        Ortiz doesn't suck, Floyd is just way too good for him
        this is a tuneup, plain and simple
        it's a 100% credible fight, but still an easy one for Floyd

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        • Motofan
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          #14
          Ortiz is coming to fight. This is why he is going to get beat up. He is still green enough to get caught by easy shots, and he is going to be overly aggressive which you just cant do against a guy like Floyd. His size may keep him in the fight, but he is going to lose a wide and clear UD. Nothing against Ortiz, I actually like the kid. But I look at the styles of the two fighters and I just dont see how Ortiz can win. He needs to hope that Floyd lost his legs over his layoff.

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          • hebi
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            #15
            Originally posted by Motofan
            Ortiz is coming to fight. This is why he is going to get beat up. He is still green enough to get caught by easy shots, and he is going to be overly aggressive which you just cant do against a guy like Floyd. His size may keep him in the fight, but he is going to lose a wide and clear UD. Nothing against Ortiz, I actually like the kid. But I look at the styles of the two fighters and I just dont see how Ortiz can win. He needs to hope that Floyd lost his legs over his layoff.
            I disagree with your assessment. I think we've seen in fights with Castillo and Hatton that Floyd can be gotten to with a lot of pressure. Certainly much more so than the guys who sat outside and tried to box. Yeah Hatton got chewed up in the process, however Ortiz throws much more refined punches than Hatton(with a lot more speed and power). Not to mention Ortiz is a southpaw, and will be throwing at more problematic angles for Floyd. I don't think Ortiz is overly green either, he's a legit champion who has gone through some wars with top fighters.

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            • skillswin
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              #16
              Originally posted by fasthard
              this is all pointless another sparring partner for floyd.
              mayweather is that good to you??

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              • El Malo.
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                #17
                Originally posted by hebi
                Floyd has been one of the most dominant fighters I've seen. Takes a lot just for him to lose a round. I'm starting to think he feels his time is coming to an end though.

                Floyd choosing Ortiz is, in my opinion, the boldest move he has made in his career. To this point, every opponent has been a calculated risk and good business. Ortiz will be good business for him too, but he is also perhaps the biggest risk out there, and I know that Floyd is aware of that. His words reflect a different attitude leading up to this fight than I am used to.

                I think his long layoffs and acting out outside the ring were a precursor to this state of mind. I think he had some bad premonitions. I believe that is why he threw a wrench in the works with Pac. He had some doubts and needed time to resolve his concerns.

                I think he is embracing his fate, and looking to go out as a champ taking on the best. I respect him for that.
                I think the problem is that Floyd doesn't enjoy boxing that much anymore and when you are not in that state of mind then theirs no point in getting in the ring no more. I think that the best scenario is for him to fight Ortiz n then Pac and call it quits.

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                • Motofan
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hebi
                  I disagree with your assessment. I think we've seen in fights with Castillo and Hatton that Floyd can be gotten to with a lot of pressure. Certainly much more so than the guys who sat outside and tried to box. Yeah Hatton got chewed up in the process, however Ortiz throws much more refined punches than Hatton(with a lot more speed and power). Not to mention Ortiz is a southpaw, and will be throwing at more problematic angles for Floyd. I don't think Ortiz is overly green either, he's a legit champion who has gone through some wars with top fighters.
                  All my points on Floyd by wide UD if you want it.

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                  • tangalog2200
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by hebi
                    Floyd has been one of the most dominant fighters I've seen. Takes a lot just for him to lose a round. I'm starting to think he feels his time is coming to an end though.

                    Floyd choosing Ortiz is, in my opinion, the boldest move he has made in his career. To this point, every opponent has been a calculated risk and good business. Ortiz will be good business for him too, but he is also perhaps the biggest risk out there, and I know that Floyd is aware of that. His words reflect a different attitude leading up to this fight than I am used to.

                    I think his long layoffs and acting out outside the ring were a precursor to this state of mind. I think he had some bad premonitions. I believe that is why he threw a wrench in the works with Pac. He had some doubts and needed time to resolve his concerns.

                    I think he is embracing his fate, and looking to go out as a champ taking on the best. I respect him for that.
                    i have a bad feeling this will be it for floyd........

                    not taking away anything from vic.....

                    but i think floyd is already done with boxing, after this....and will try to mend his life

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                    • Check_hooks
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                      #20
                      If Ortiz gets off first on Floyd he can win the fight. I know Floyd can't hurt Ortiz after hes been hit WAY harder by Maidana and Berto.

                      Ortiz needs to start working on his stamina. If he can apply pressure and get off first for 12 rounds he will win.

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