Originally posted by jrosales13
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Mayweathers right! If the media had pushed for both fighters to take drug testing..
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After the first negotiations, Mayweather and co. was winning the PR war... but Bob Arum is an expert at PR and has steadily turned the tide since then (through a false countdown, quotes, law suits, Mayweather's quotes and perceived history, etc.)
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With the media and the very own American boxing fans and some American boxers against you, no way that would have happened.
Funny it was non Americans who were on Floyd's side like Miguel Cotto. Very few Americans were on Floyd's side. African American Marvin Hagler is one who's against Floyd Mayweather's Olympic Style Drug Testing request. Really one of the worst countries there is, where they go against eachother. You don't see that in Mexico, Puerto Rico, British people, English etc.
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Originally posted by Big Dunn View PostBecause you can't have it both ways. Manny wanted the weight clause. Commission has a weight penalty provision already. Floyd wanted PED testing commission has it already.
Both felt the current provisions were not enough to deter their opponent from abiding by the rules. So they both asked for more.
You ok with that?
after that the media went all over floyd. there's no stopping them. no matter what floyd said or do, the media wanted none of it. the ball went all on floyd's court after that.
why would you blame the media for something you did or you've been doing after pacquiao had agreed to your initial demands?
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Originally posted by Dedication View PostHmmm... yeah, I see what you're saying. The entire 2nd negotiations is just hugely befuddling.
If you want to negotiate with Floyd, you have to contact Al Haymon directly, Floyd has said this himself. So there was no negotiations because Greenburg is the HBO President, not Floyd adviser or promoter.
There was negotiations, yes, there was...with Arum and Greenburg. Not Arum and Haymon. Because Arum or Haymon refuse to contact eachother. So who will break the ice, I don't know.
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Originally posted by pacfan View Posthow many times does floyd have to move the goal post? we all know that pacquiao eventually agreed with the 14 day cut off demand. who doesn't remember that? it's all over the front pages of every sport media outlet. floyd's reaction: vacation.
after that the media went all over floyd. there's no stopping them. no matter what floyd said or do, the media wanted none of it. the ball went all on floyd's court after that.
why would you blame the media for something you did or you've been doing after pacquiao had agreed to your initial demands?
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Originally posted by pacfan View Posthow many times does floyd have to move the goal post? we all know that pacquiao eventually agreed with the 14 day cut off demand. who doesn't remember that? it's all over the front pages of every sport media outlet. floyd's reaction: vacation.
after that the media went all over floyd. there's no stopping them. no matter what floyd said or do, the media wanted none of it. the ball went all on floyd's court after that.
why would you blame the media for something you did or you've been doing after pacquiao had agreed to your initial demands?
Funny how u label it move the goalpost. Try the plain truth in english. Floyd compromised to 14 days. Manny refused. FLoyd took the compromise offer off the tale in May made it clear no cutoff or no fight. Manny then agreed to 14 dyas in July. Funny when King/Valuev did that to Vitali they got hammered for it.
Now please answer the question from my original post.
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wonder if there is gonna be a "mayweather questionable quotes in today's presser" thread..
this quote is questionable because there are PLENTY of other PROFESSIONAL ways to getting the tests done without the media.
i have always heard.."never let the media help you get your point across"
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