Lampley comments on PEDS

[check hook]

Well, your concern for the safety of fighters becomes a moot point if PEDs were legalized across the board. If every fighter was allowed to use them, then it would technically be a level playing field for all.

I'm still on the fence about PED use. For one, I would like to continue the naivety about the natural meritocracy of all sports players, however times have changed. Even at that, Lampley did point out that enhancement boosters have been used throughout the history of sports.

The issue, at hand, is whether PED use is dangerous for the athlete using it, not so much for the athlete that it is being used against. As highlighted in the documentary, "Bigger, Stronger, Faster," the AMA of the United States was actually defending the safety of steroids before Congress. In actuality, the path to making steroid/PED use in America illegal was more or less a campaign of morality, rather than medical safety.

True, sort of. Another reason they are banned is because of the adverse side-effects associated with long-term use, and also morality as you have stated.

[The Evil 1-2]

that is a very good set of points there.

but IF PEDs would actually be legalized, i could see that the stars would eventually be the PEDS and no longer the fighters themselves.

Hold on, not so fast. As powerlifting guru, Louie Simmons, has said in the documentary that I mentioned, "Regardless of what people think about Barry Bonds, you can't take a bottle of testosterone, put on Barry's baseball uniform and make him hit 700 homeruns. BARRY HAS GOTTA GO OUT AND TRAIN AT HITTING 700 HOMERUNS."

There is a prevailing misconception out there that PED/steroid use is the easy way out, which is true to a certain extent. However, you just don't pop pills and magically become athletically gifted. It won't give you all the technical nuances of proper punching mechanics or the nuances of certain movements in any other sport. You have to train very hard to get those things down. It is because of this realization that I'm still on the fence about PED/steroid use.

[The Evil 1-2]

yeah i must agree, records and wins would be tainted from it. i don't understand how someone could think it would be okay to allow it honestly, sometimes the beauty of the sport is to see the pure talents that come around every generation or so...guess it's just my opinion though

Your opinion is very valid. However, maybe we have to let go of the romanticized vision we have of athletes. As I said in a previous post, PEDs/steroids don't automatically make you a better athlete. You have to train as well and train VERY HARD.

[The Evil 1-2]

True, sort of. Another reason they are banned is because of the adverse side-effects associated with long-term use, and also morality as you have stated.

There hasn't been a concrete long-term study on the prolonged use of PEDs/steroids to my knowledge. Many of the studies have come out inconclusive.

[AFighter4U]

Hold on, not so fast. As powerlifting guru, Louie Simmons, has said in the documentary that I mentioned, "Regardless of what people think about Barry Bonds, you can't take a bottle of testosterone, put on Barry's baseball uniform and make him hit 700 homeruns. BARRY HAS GOTTA GO OUT AND TRAIN AT HITTING 700 HOMERUNS."

There is a prevailing misconception out there that PED/steroid use is the easy way out, which is true to a certain extent. However, you just don't pop pills and magically become athletically gifted. It won't give you all the technical nuances of proper punching mechanics or the nuances of certain movements in any other sport. You have to train very hard to get those things down. It is because of this realization that I'm still on the fence about PED/steroid use.

which is why i believe the 7 day window pac is asking for is reasonable and that their saying his taking PEDS AT THE POINT OF TONING DOWN HIS TRAINING is all bullcrap.

those last seven days right before a fight is no longer training actually, but toning down the body to recover from the training.

sorry, i know this isn't about Pac, but i felt that i had to point it out.

[AFighter4U]

There hasn't been a concrete long-term study on the prolonged use of PEDs/steroids to my knowledge. Many of the studies have come out inconclusive.

an interesting point. but that only leads to MORE questions and more arguments. nothing elicits more conflict than questions with no concrete answers.

in the end, i believe legalizing PEDs would open a pandora's box the end result of which, NOBODY can truly predict.

[The Evil 1-2]

which is why i believe the 7 day window pac is asking for is reasonable and that their saying his taking PEDS AT THE POINT OF TONING DOWN HIS TRAINING is all bullcrap.

those last seven days right before a fight is no longer training actually, but toning down the body to recover from the training.

sorry, i know this isn't about Pac, but i felt that i had to point it out.

Lol, going down this path will get ugly very quickly. Honestly, I'm tired of speaking on the Floyd-Pac debacle. I got ****** into it like many have. I now believe that both sides are to blame in the fight not happening.

All I know is that, at this point, both fighters are going to have great fights in the Fall. Unfortunately, it won't be with each other. However, I'm cool with Pac-JMM and especially with, Floyd-Ortiz.

[AFighter4U]

Lol, going down this path will get ugly very quickly. Honestly, I'm tired of speaking on the Floyd-Pac debacle. I got ****** into it like many have. I now believe that both sides are to blame in the fight not happening.

All I know is that, at this point, both fighters are going to have great fights in the Fall. Unfortunately, it won't be with each other. However, I'm cool with Pac-JMM and especially with, Floyd-Ortiz.

true, both parties are to blame and yes, both their respective fights ARE indeed interesting.

[check hook]

There hasn't been a concrete long-term study on the prolonged use of PEDs/steroids to my knowledge. Many of the studies have come out inconclusive.

There's plenty of studies, and anecdotal evidence, which is why many doctors will actually prescribe steroids if patients ask for them. They feel it is better that they take them under a doctors supervision than acquire them illegally and without constant checkups.

Long term steroid abuse has been shown to alter the left ventricle of the heart and there is other known side effects associated with synthetically introduced EPO and HGH in the human body.

These substances have medical uses. EPO (and the various forms it comes in) was initially developed for medical use, as with most other PED's. Doctors prescribe them when the benfit of doing so outweighs the negative consequences.

[Rick Grimes]

If you legalise PED's in sports it's even a bigger disadvantage to the up and comers. It will create a market where only the richest will be able to afford the latest and greatest PED's. Sport should be about hard work and natural ability, not paying for short cuts to success.