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Let's get Canelo Alvarez -vs- Paul Williams at 154lbs in DECEMBER!

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  • #71
    Originally posted by Fresno View Post
    Solid fighter....
    So the fact that Williams beat Margarito at his own game using workrate and coming forward didnt impress you? (btw in his very next fight Williams was outboxed much like he was against Lara by Quintana who he later stopped in one round)

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    • #72
      All this will do is make the winner seem better than he actually is.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by ny123 View Post
        So the fact that Williams beat Margarito at his own game using workrate and coming forward didnt impress you? (btw in his very next fight Williams was outboxed much like he was against Lara by Quintana who he later stopped in one round)
        It didn't impress me, so he had a good game plan against margarito... Williams height caused problems for fighters.. But I can say that Im not impressed by him and this is coming from someone that wants him to do good.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Fresno View Post
          It didn't impress me, so he had a good game plan against margarito... Williams height caused problems for fighters.. But I can say that Im not impressed by him and this is coming from someone that wants him to do good.
          What gameplan? Dont you get it that his style is his style and the fact that he struggles with somewhat slick southpaws has been known for a few years now already. Please dont think that because he struggled with Lara and Martinez he would struggle with Canelo who fights nothing like those two. If Quintana would have fought Williams before Margarito i could imagine how people would have been saying that Margs was going to kill Pwill.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by ny123 View Post
            You know what i dont get is that Williams lost to Quintana over 3 years ago who landed pretty much the same punches Lara landed and people now act like Paul is shot and cant compete anymore. The talk of Williams chin being cracked were obviously premature too being that Lara landed all night and Williams never even touched the canvas. Williams came with the same style he always has and fought pretty much the same type of fight. I know most of you think Williams is shot but for Canelo to go from M. Hatton,J.Cotto and R. Rhodes this will be a huge step up and his matchmakers know it.

            Who did Lara have before Paul Williams?...please don't say Carlos Molina..

            Who said his chin is cracked or he's shot?..he's the same fighter he's always been, throws over 1000 punches in 12 rounds and gets hit a lot because he's 6'3 fighting on the inside, it's just that at 154 or 160 he's getting his ass whooped, period.

            Canelo needs this step up in competition, Williams is still dangerous enough to make it a great fight, but his style is perfect for Canelo to set up and rock his ass and take him out in an exciting fight..

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            • #76
              Originally posted by ny123 View Post
              What gameplan? Dont you get it that his style is his style and the fact that he struggles with somewhat slick southpaws has been known for a few years now already. Please dont think that because he struggled with Lara and Martinez he would struggle with Canelo who fights nothing like those two. If Quintana would have fought Williams before Margarito i could imagine how people would have been saying that Margs was going to kill Pwill.
              I think Williams sucks... If you like him than that's on you... Do your scenerio match ups all you want but dude is just not that guy.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by .WaRCoTTo. View Post
                Who did Lara have before Paul Williams?...please don't say Carlos Molina..Who said his chin is cracked or he's shot?..he's the same fighter he's always been, throws over 1000 punches in 12 rounds and gets hit a lot because he's 6'3 fighting on the inside, it's just that at 154 or 160 he's getting his ass whooped, period.

                Canelo needs this step up in competition, Williams is still dangerous enough to make it a great fight, but his style is perfect for Canelo to set up and rock his ass and take him out in an exciting fight..
                My point is not who he fought before Williams but with the style he fights in that we saw gave Williams problems years ago and then were reminded again recently against Martinez twice.

                I agree that this fight would be exciting and i would like to see it but Team Alvarez wont make it and imo he isnt quite ready.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Fresno View Post
                  I think Williams sucks... If you like him than that's on you... Do your scenerio match ups all you want but dude is just not that guy.
                  I dont like him or dislike him and thats not the point. If you think Williams sucks but then go on to say Margarito is solid well then i think you are bias and have from your post history that wouldnt be a crazy assumption.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by ny123 View Post
                    I dont like him or dislike him and thats not the point. If you think Williams sucks but then go on to say Margarito is solid well then i think you are bias and have from your post history that wouldnt be a crazy assumption.
                    I tried rooting for the guy... The same way I try rooting for cintron... But I might be wrong about cintron aswell.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Fresno View Post
                      I tried rooting for the guy... The same way I try rooting for cintron... But I might be wrong about cintron aswell.
                      Cintron is another dude who struggles with a certain style (pressure fighters who swarm him and dont give him space to get off). Watch both Margarito fights,Molina and even Jesse Feliciano who he stopped late. Put him in with a boxer with a questionable chin and he will most likely look good.

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