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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #51
    Originally posted by Phenom
    what the **** did Bradley do at ww against a no name and what did Ortiz do against a top 3? BTW there is a reason Bradley or khan never gave ortiz a shot at 140
    Yea a very good reason,He Lost To Maidana...

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      #52
      Originally posted by romebyko
      So Khan must be a D level fighter because he is not as accomplished as Bradley...
      Khan has beaten the better fighters. Instead of running and ducking like a coward Khan actually has a fight scheduled.

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        #53
        Originally posted by romebyko
        Yea a very good reason,He Lost To Maidana...
        or because he was too dangerous low reward high risk type of a fight

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          #54
          Originally posted by Phenom
          or because he was too dangerous low reward high risk type of a fight
          Ortiz wasn't in line for a shot ever. Why would he have gotten one?

          He was on his comeback trail against senior citizens.

          Why is everybody overhyping and overrating Ortiz now? is ridiculous.

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            #55
            Originally posted by hent
            Khan has beaten the better fighters. Instead of running and ducking like a coward Khan actually has a fight scheduled.
            Timmy is a two time unified Champ explain how Khan fought the better fighters when Bradley clearly beat far more Champs??Please stop making an azz of ya self

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              #56
              Originally posted by Phenom
              or because he was too dangerous low reward high risk type of a fight
              Ortiz highest ranking at 140lb was 7..Dude Bradley was chasing Champions and Khan was a Champion why would they go seeking out the num 7 ranked guy(who if he had beat Maidana would have been in line for a shot at Khan)when there are Champions and num 1 contenders right in front of umm??

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                #57
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Ortiz wasn't in line for a shot ever. Why would he have gotten one?

                He was on his comeback trail against senior citizens.

                Why is everybody overhyping and overrating Ortiz now? is ridiculous.
                actually he was and he should have had the Kotelnik fight instead of Khan and are you saying Paul Malignaggi or McCloskey are more deserving for a shot then Ortiz? Ortiz always had the top talent its not that his being overrated its just people won't stop overhyping that one bad fight against Maidana

                I knowortiz always had his hatters but you can't tell me skills for skills his not a top 3 at 140

                Originally posted by romebyko
                Ortiz highest ranking at 140lb was 7..Dude Bradley was chasing Champions and Khan was a Champion why would they go seeking out the num 7 ranked guy(who if he had beat Maidana would have been in line for a shot at Khan)when there are Champions and num 1 contenders right in front of umm??
                dude Bradley was chasing Abregu at 147 and fighting only 1 fight last year when the rest of a loaded 140 had 3 or 4 fights a year
                Last edited by Phenom; 06-25-2011, 12:18 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Phenom
                  actually he was and he should have had the Kotelnik fight instead of Khan and are you saying Paul Malignaggi or McCloskey are more deserving for a shot then Ortiz? Ortiz always had the top talent its not that his being overrated its just people won't stop overhyping that one bad fight against Maidana

                  I knowortiz always had his hatters but you can't tell me skills for skills his not a top 3 at 140
                  So him not getting his shot at Kotelnik equates Khan and Bradley not giving his a shot? WTF?

                  I completely misread what you said. I thought you said Khan and Bradley didn't give him a shot like if he deserved one. But, I guess you meant Kotelnik didn't. I don't know you could have those confused.

                  And, yes at that time Malignaggi deserved it more than Ortiz.

                  And, Ortiz had his shot at the WW title when McCloskey was getting his shot at Khan. It seems like you just throwing names and not looking at the timeline.

                  And, is not just the Maidana fight, is the Campbell fight and Peterson fight where he looked like eh...He just too inconsistent. And, maybe mentally weak. And, after the Maidana fight he did go on a senior citizen tour did he not? That type of fights don't really put you in line for a shot.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    actually he was and he should have had the Kotelnik fight instead of Khan and are you saying Paul Malignaggi or McCloskey are more deserving for a shot then Ortiz? Ortiz always had the top talent its not that his being overrated its just people won't stop overhyping that one bad fight against Maidana

                    I knowortiz always had his hatters but you can't tell me skills for skills his not a top 3 at 140



                    dude Bradley was chasing Abregu at 147 and fighting only 1 fight last year when the rest of a loaded 140 had 3 or 4 fights a year
                    Golden boy didnt want Ortiz to take another bad beating like he did againt Maidana. Ortiz wouldnt stand a chance against Khan, hed get jabbed to death before getting stopped. Ortiz has no defence or jab to speak of. Khan is just too fast for him.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Phenom
                      actually he was and he should have had the Kotelnik fight instead of Khan and are you saying Paul Malignaggi or McCloskey are more deserving for a shot then Ortiz? Ortiz always had the top talent its not that his being overrated its just people won't stop overhyping that one bad fight against Maidana

                      I knowortiz always had his hatters but you can't tell me skills for skills his not a top 3 at 140



                      dude Bradley was chasing Abregu at 147 and fighting only 1 fight last year when the rest of a loaded 140 had 3 or 4 fights a year
                      At the time,no Ortiz was not a better opponent then Paulie M or Mcflurry..You have to remember when those fights took place..

                      Bradley fought Abregu after he fought Campbell and Peterson...Then he fought the num 2 or 3 fighter in the div..So I'm having a hard time seeing what it is your talking about??Bradley also tried to land a fight with Maidana before Khan fought him but we see how that turned out...

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