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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #91
    Originally posted by robson24
    i know the story,bradleys a ***** who wanted nothing of khan,khan bent backwards and more for that fight,you know that.for bradley and his so called promotional problems full of ****,bradley thinks hes a superstar and got greedy big gary shaw knows that bradley tricked his fans for calling khan out constantly without backing it up for me there a plenty of fighters more deserving of a shot against pac or mayweather.like i said my opinion.
    Now this post is more of an opinion of the situation with Bradley and Khan cool we all have are opinions..But once again it does not change facts,Bradley is more Accomplished..

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      #92
      Originally posted by romebyko
      You can't argue because you would lose with no facts to back up ya argument...I'll ask you the same question..Has Berto ever took a belt off a Champion??Alexander has..

      Has Berto ever fought a top 5 fighter in his div??Alexander has..

      Has Berto ever unified a belt in his div??Alexander has..Don't let Ortiz nut's block ya vision son..

      That's called a paper champ and Urango isn't exactly something to hang your hat on.

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        #93
        Originally posted by F l i c k e r
        That's called a paper champ and Urango isn't exactly something to hang your hat on.
        How was Alexander a Paper Champ when he beat Urango for one of his belts??Urango is a tough out..No worse or better then Maidana if ya want to be honest,and Khan supporters swear by that win for Khan..

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          #94
          Originally posted by romebyko
          How was Alexander a Paper Champ when he beat Urango for one of his belts??Urango is a tough out..No worse or better then Maidana if ya want to be honest,and Khan supporters swear by that win for Khan..

          lol, no way. You know it and I know it. Urango isn't something to write home about. Maidana isn't either, he's a bum with a puncher's chance. The reason why it looked/looks good for Khan is because Khan has a glass chin and he beat a puncher while staying in his face.

          And with the performance from both Bradley and Alexander when they fought. One thing that showed was, both were vastly over rated. We didn't realize it at the time but we sure can see it now.

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            #95
            Originally posted by F l i c k e r
            lol, no way. You know it and I know it. Urango isn't something to write home about. Maidana isn't either, he's a bum with a puncher's chance. The reason why it looked/looks good for Khan is because Khan has a glass chin and he beat a puncher while staying in his face.

            And with the performance from both Bradley and Alexander when they fought. One thing that showed was, both were vastly over rated. We didn't realize it at the time but we sure can see it now.
            If your a Khan fan you can see it,because ya blinded by ya love for Khan..Khan did nothing to a D level fighter in Mcflurry what does that tell me??That Khan is overrated,using ya logic anyway..

            Maidana is nothing to write home about just like Urango but you give Khan credit but not Alexander??Surely you see how dumb that is right??

            Bradley and Alexander were the num1 and num 3 fighters in the Div..Bradley tried everything in his power to make a good fight of it but Alexander wanted no parts of period..Maybe Alexander was a bit overrated but he knows how to not engage/hold..Was not Bradleys fault...

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              #96
              Originally posted by romebyko
              If your a Khan fan you can see it,because ya blinded by ya love for Khan..Khan did nothing to a D level fighter in Mcflurry what does that tell me??That Khan is overrated,using ya logic anyway..

              Maidana is nothing to write home about just like Urango but you give Khan credit but not Alexander??Surely you see how dumb that is right??

              Bradley and Alexander were the num1 and num 3 fighters in the Div..Bradley tried everything in his power to make a good fight of it but Alexander wanted no parts of period..Maybe Alexander was a bit overrated but he knows how to not engage/hold..Was not Bradleys fault...

              lol, yes I am a Khan fan. However, I don't give Khan much credit for beating Maidana. I give him the credit of winning a fight, nothing more than that. Maidana is just like Urango, you don't go around boasting about beating those guys.

              As for Bradley and Alexander. There is no excuse for that sort of fight. You make it sound like a Pac-Clottey fight but that fight was in no way, shape, or form a pac-clottey fight. Bradley didn't do anything to win that fight. He couldn't hug and mug like he normally does and looked terrible because of it. Alexander just proved that he was vastly over rated, not ready for the limelight yet.

              I see it like this. Bradley's best fight is Holt. That is decent but nothing special. Khan fighting Zab >>> Bradley + Alexander's career. Khan beating Zab, moves him to #1 JWW.

              Bradley at that point would be nothing but a figure head, just like Lucian Bute. #1 because of their record and nothing more.

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              • Canelo Phresh
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                #97
                Originally posted by led
                Clottey is even better than Khan. Ask Burner.
                wtf? burner said clotteys better than khan?

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                  #98
                  At 147 I favor Ortiz over both.

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                    #99
                    Amir and Bradley are better fighters than Ortiz. Ortiz has proven that he is much better suited at 147 though.

                    Bradley is the same fighter at 147 as he is at 140. The real question is, how is Amir gonna be at 147? I think just like Ortiz, Amir will be even better at 147 because his frame is of a natural 147 lber.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by wazaa.
                      Amir and Bradley are better fighters than Ortiz. Ortiz has proven that he is much better suited at 147 though.

                      Bradley is the same fighter at 147 as he is at 140. The real question is, how is Amir gonna be at 147? I think just like Ortiz, Amir will be even better at 147 because his frame is of a natural 147 lber.
                      I don't think Bradley is better. He hasn't really taken a risky fight. Amir, I rate slightly behind Ortiz. Just a little. I see more upsides in Ortiz's game than Amir's. Ortiz just got unlucky 2x now.

                      It's possible he(Khan) will lose speed though. He cuts to max his speed and power. When you move up, those attributes decrease a little.

                      Never the less. I think Khan can handle himself at 147. I see a potential rivalry with Ortiz at 147.

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