Comments Thread For: Roach Breaks Down Wladimir Klitschko vs David Haye

[Heru]

This quote from Haye tells me he has a good gameplan going in because he mentioned the key word to winning against Wlad is "uncomfortable". You have to make and keep Wlad uncomfortable to win against him.

Calvin Brock and Tony Thompson made Wlad uncomfortable without really landing punches. Brock did it by just staying in the middle of the ring and constant circling; Thompson did it by taking what Brock did, but adding pressure and activity.

Haye is going to have to build onto that and just keep Wlad guessing by feinting, mixing in a few body shots, and punching in the clinch. It'd be interesting to see what Wlad would do, if Haye takes a step back and lands a haymaker in the clinch. If it stops Wlad from holding (which he uses as a rest period and a tactic to wear opponents out), then he's tilted Wlad's comfort meter a little more toward uncomfortable. Tough task though because Wlad has shown he can adapt to the tactics Brock and Thompson used, so Haye is going to have to switch up because if Wlad gets comfortable and in his rhythm, Haye's done.

Having the best combination of speed, explosiveness, and power Wlad has ever faced, even more so than Sanders (although he lacks the size) doesn't hurt, but it's going to take more than to slay Wlad.

Freddie Roach must be reading my ****, lol...

[Die Antwoord]

Freddie Roach is the ugliest man alive. He looks like the kid from 6th sense, aged 40 years, beaten with baseball bats in the face, ****d by mike tyson in the face till roach loved him, gorilla masked by dolph lundgren, had someone slap some goofy ass glasses on him and give him a 25 cent hair cut and then stapled a goofy ass smile on him. This guy should be working on becoming less freaking hideous and stop giving dumb ass break downs of fights. Wah, Klitschko's are boring...YOURE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 3 MOST BORING FIGHT OF ALL TIME. All 3 of manny pacquiao's fights, i wanted my money back, i wanted to gauge my eyes out, I wanted to call boxing commissions and demand they prohibit gay ass catch weights for fighting over the hill losers who accomplished little while not cheating, usually looking for one last pay check they can blow on drugs or something and the accomplishment is just getting the damn fight for them, but most of all I wanted my money back. What the hell does Freddie Roach know about this. Wlad wont be weight drained, hes not coming off a loss, he isnt 40 years old, he hasnt been beat by Floyd mayweather, he isnt just after one pay check, hes not washed up and he knows how to throw a damn jab. That right there takes away everything Freddie Roach knows how to beat. So shut your ugly face freddie roach.

[queenleia]

Freddie Roach is the ugliest man alive. He looks like the kid from 6th sense, aged 40 years, beaten with baseball bats in the face, ****d by mike tyson in the face till roach loved him, gorilla masked by dolph lundgren, had someone slap some goofy ass glasses on him and give him a 25 cent hair cut and then stapled a goofy ass smile on him. This guy should be working on becoming less freaking hideous and stop giving dumb ass break downs of fights. Wah, Klitschko's are boring...YOURE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE 3 MOST BORING FIGHT OF ALL TIME. All 3 of manny pacquiao's fights, i wanted my money back, i wanted to gauge my eyes out, I wanted to call boxing commissions and demand they prohibit gay ass catch weights for fighting over the hill losers who accomplished little while not cheating, usually looking for one last pay check they can blow on drugs or something and the accomplishment is just getting the damn fight for them, but most of all I wanted my money back. What the hell does Freddie Roach know about this. Wlad wont be weight drained, hes not coming off a loss, he isnt 40 years old, he hasnt been beat by Floyd mayweather, he isnt just after one pay check, hes not washed up and he knows how to throw a damn jab. That right there takes away everything Freddie Roach knows how to beat. So shut your ugly face freddie roach.

my god....i can't believe it

[Dave Rado]

I disagree massively with your take that those guys would be contenders, there were way better gate keepers in the 90s then those 2, which was not a particular strong time for the division in my opinion, I also disagree haye vs either of them is a pick em, but hey that is a matter of opinion.

Based on what? Chambers has very similar skills and speed to Chris Byrd (whom Wlad beat just as easily as he beat Chambers) and to Jimmy Young; and Chambers easily dominated Dimitrenko, who is still ranked #7 by The Ring even now, and who is taller than Wlad. In most other eras Chambers would certainly have held an alphabet belt for a while, albeit without being considered the #1 Heavyweight, just as Byrd did.

Chagaev beat Valuev much more convincingly than Haye did and is comparable to someone like Jerry Quarry or Bonavena.

[Dave Rado]

my god....i can't believe it

Yeah, that must be the most demented and sick post ever to appear on boxingscene.

[Medved]

http://www.heavyweightblog.com/2943/useless-boxing-statistics-evander-holyfield

^ read that please, Wlad and his Brother are the #1 or at the top of HW stats and streaks. People like to underrate them but another stat is that No Hw in history has beaten more undefeated Fighters than Wlad (7), look at the many wins, he's fought the most REAL Hw fights, true heavyweight fights, not half-ass CW.
How many undefeat fighters beaten by:
Wlad: 7
Tyson: 6
Vitali: 5
Holyfield: 5
Lennox : 4

[Rick Grimes]

http://www.heavyweightblog.com/2943/...nder-holyfield

^ read that please, Wlad and his Brother are the #1 or at the top of HW stats and streaks. People like to underrate them but another stat is that No Hw in history has beaten more undefeated Fighters than Wlad (7), look at the many wins, he's fought the most REAL Hw fights, true heavyweight fights, not half-ass CW.
How many undefeat fighters beaten by:
Wlad: 7
Tyson: 6
Vitali: 5
Holyfield: 5
Lennox : 4

Oh FFS, That's all you Klitschko fans have got (stats), stats don't mean shit in boxing if you haven't got the quality of opposition go along with them. Neither Klitschko has.

[Stercus Accidit]

Stats against fats with tats looking like vats needing gats who end up on mats like **** with nats don't count!

[LeadUppercut]

Stats against fats with tats looking like vats needing gats who end up on mats like **** with nats don't count!

LMAO absolutely..... I think

Stats, are like a bikini.....
they give you a rough idea whats going on, but they hide all the good stuff.

[Pullcounter]

Roach is correct wlad is a incredible athlete but he's not really a fighter.but I bet wlad doesn't appreciate roach saying those things before the fight and especially all the other stuff like how wlad is a boring fighter but wlad is a pretty boring fighter tho.true is true