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  • #11
    Originally posted by iJohn Locke View Post
    On the point where Roach says 'in this sport you have to give 100%', I kind of agree, Wlad may well give 100% in training, I don't doubt that for one second, but in the ring, in the ring I don't think he does, I think he would rather fight at 60% and stay safe. Just a small observation...
    this is no secret that Wlad is a safety first fighter

    I can't blame him, he's been stopped 3 times

    the interesting part is that Wlad admits he is not a fighter, that would be Vitali

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    • #12
      wlad may be boring,but boxing is still boxing. haye will not win simply because he is exciting. and he is no pac either.

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      • #13
        Blah blah blah, I don't card if Wlad said it or not... The talk would all stop on the 2nd of July, Wlad is a boxer not a fighter and that's pretty obvious in the way he puts his opponents away, Wlad of now isn't the same Wlad of 8 or 9 years ago so whatever Roach says doesn't mean ***** on fight night.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
          Chambers and Chagaev would both have been contenders in any era and Haye vs. either of them would be pick 'em fights. Your hate makes you blind.

          If Haye is convincingly dominated by Wlad in this fight, will you give Wlad props or will you start claiming that Haye was never a world class fighter? I suspect you will do the latter.
          Firstly I have no hate for either fighter, i am a fan of both. I think both guys are world class fighters, like I said haye needs to prove he is a world class heavyweight. Being a Brit my aliegance lies with haye, only an idiot would assume I was a hater not knowing anything about me or my post history. I disagree massively with your take that those guys would be contenders, there were way better gate keepers in the 90s then those 2, which was not a particular strong time for the division in my opinion, I also disagree haye vs either of them is a pick em, but hey that is a matter of opinion. I dont think you have particularly good judgement, so not gonna hold your opinion against
          you.

          If wlad dominates haye I will hold my hands up and say I was wrong, I have agreed this with klitschko fans including freedom. I have made a thread about it, that the losing side should apologise and admit they got it wrong, especially considering those guys have been giving me red k for only stating my opinion. So there goes that theory of yours ya muppet. I don't hate on any fighters, I pretty much try and be unbiased, and support my favourite fighters, i don't waste time trying to belittle fighters.

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          • #15
            this gets annoying.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by edgarg View Post
              i think The Roach is dreaming. This conversation took place in 2003 and Klitschko's English was not very good. He was probably agreeing with The Roach and meant "yes. I really want to be a fighter".
              I think it's typical for Russians to say "I wish to be a fighter" when they simply mean "I want to fight."

              Another typical mistake is "much too much" for example "Today I learned much too much" when they mean "Today I learned a lot."

              Additionally EVEN IF Wlad said "I wish I were a fighter" or "I wish I could be a better fighter" then this shows nothing but his modesty since his unbelievably good record and his top performance in the ring already leaves no doubt that he _IS_ a good fighter.

              Reminds me of the saying "****** people know for sure. Intelligent people always doubt."

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              • #17
                Originally posted by sunny31 View Post
                Wlad is a master? He makes people look like scrubs? That is because they are!

                In his current winning run he has beaten very few decent fighters, and still to date has not beaten a world class fighter. If you think he is going to win the fight then that is fair enough, but please leave the bull**** at the door. David haye in my opinion is the first world class fighter wlad has fought, he may or may not be a world class heavyweight, but we will see on July 2
                break it down for me , how is chagaev , ibragimov , byrd , not world class ?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by hweightblogger View Post
                  I think it's typical for Russians to say "I wish to be a fighter" when they simply mean "I want to fight."

                  Another typical mistake is "much too much" for example "Today I learned much too much" when they mean "Today I learned a lot."

                  Additionally EVEN IF Wlad said "I wish I were a fighter" or "I wish I could be a better fighter" then this shows nothing but his modesty since his unbelievably good record and his top performance in the ring already leaves no doubt that he _IS_ a good fighter.

                  Reminds me of the saying "****** people know for sure. Intelligent people always doubt."

                  this.

                  roach is just butthurt that he can't take 10 % of that 8 figures payday, nothing to see here

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                  • #19
                    Come on now, when did he say "i wish i could fight"?

                    Did he say it before or after he lost to Sanders? I dont think anyone now would think Wlad cant fight. He might be boring. But he is a boring boxer who can fight.

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                    • #20
                      Dear Freddie: An Open Letter To Freddie Roach Regarding David Haye and the Klitschkos

                      http://*******.com/3w2trpb

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