who do you think has more heart Rios or Ortiz?

[Smokin'J]

Trick question?

Answer seems obvious to me: Ortiz is masquerading as a game fighter and to be fair put in a good performance against Berto, but he WILL quit under the right circumstances.

From what i've seen of Rios he would rather be stopped then stop himself and quit.

Most boxers falls under the Ortiz category. No shame, as it defies human nature to have no self preservation. Only a very small percentage of people will have no quit in them and will always believe they are winning even when they are clearly being beaten like a small child.

Margarito comes to mind.

[chav]

Margarito comes to mind.

100%

[Doctor_Tenma]

it was closer than that........with the KD as well scored by berto.....................it was a clear Ortiz win............but in no way was it a dominant performance.................

I'm not saying it was a dominant performance, I'm saying it wasn't close, it wasn't a close fight.

[STRUGG]

I'm not saying it was a dominant performance, I'm saying it wasn't close, it wasn't a close fight.

it was clear...................but it was kinda close as well..................thats why its a FOTY front runner................

[gauze]

the only way to find out for sure is to let them tongue the ********s of big fat men. pushed to the limit, how much pressure can you take?

[Bushbaby]

strugg,ur a meager feeble thinker real talk.Why would u come on boxingscene to make a tread trying to discredit Ortiz on an issue about heart.When 1 of my favorite fighters & urs too,(Miguel Cotto) basically quit in 2 ****ing fights jacka$$??How idiotic can U be??Now go on,quote me & make some silly excuse as to why Cotto's isn't as bad.

[Doctor_Tenma]

it was clear...................but it was kinda close as well..................thats why its a FOTY front runner................

The first half of the fight was FOTY material, the 2nd half was wasn't that entertaining, it was all Victor, as a whole...not FOTY material, too much clinching from Berto.

[jjbj2]

Brandon Rios and Victor Ortiz both have heart. Still, Ortiz will always be questionable because he freely gave up a fight. Hopefully, people will forgive him like everyone did for Roberto Duran's "NO MAS!"

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

In the gym when I see young kids spar for the first time, there are two types. First type is the kid that doesn't like contact, keeps out of distance and you can tell isn't used to getting hit.

The second type is the kid that when he gets hit, wants to hit back, actually likes the contact and stays in the pocket because he wants to land more than the other kid.

Rios is the second type, he likes to fight. You can't teach that and I just don't know if Ortiz has that same thing inside of him.