who do you think has more heart Rios or Ortiz?

[STRUGG]

regarded as the most talented and the most skilled current fighter on earth?
not to mention being a cash cow and doubling Pacquiaos purses

I'd say thats a good place to be

but with a **** legacy.................and 90% of the boxing world thinking/knowing.................hes all about ducking.....................when you got some haters its aight...................but 90%........lol

[STRUGG]

Ortiz is better then Bum Bum P4P, Floyd is obviously above and beyond what Bum Bum will ever be.

old floyd would be definitely be.............but current money may...............i dont think so (heart wise)................

[Doctor_Tenma]

The same improvements Ortiz received when moving up to 147, strength, size, stamina...I see the same thing happening to Rios when he moves up to 140.

[Bring It On]

Come on now... Floyd's resume will be way better then Rios' when they both have retired. Stop this nonsense.

[LeG00N]

but with a **** legacy.................and 90% of the boxing world thinking/knowing.................hes all about ducking.....................when you got some haters its aight...................but 90%........lol

you made that percentage up.....

[STRUGG]

The same improvements Ortiz received when moving up to 147, strength, size, stamina...I see the same thing happening to Rios when he moves up to 140.

news flash.............beating Berto in WW .....in a competitive brawl.............isnt really that impressive......................

[STRUGG]

you made that percentage up.....

its actually..........a conservative estimate.....................

[Doctor_Tenma]

news flash.............beating Berto in WW .....in a competitive brawl.............isnt really that impressive......................

I rooted for Berto and I didn't think that was competitive. At most Berto won 3 rounds.

[chav]

Trick question?

Answer seems obvious to me: Ortiz is masquerading as a game fighter and to be fair put in a good performance against Berto, but he WILL quit under the right circumstances.

From what i've seen of Rios he would rather be stopped then stop himself and quit.

Most boxers falls under the Ortiz category. No shame, as it defies human nature to have no self preservation. Only a very small percentage of people will have no quit in them and will always believe they are winning even when they are clearly being beaten like a small child.

[STRUGG]

I rooted for Berto and I didn't think that was competitive. At most Berto won 3 rounds.

it was closer than that........with the KD as well scored by berto.....................it was a clear Ortiz win............but in no way was it a dominant performance.................