This doesn't tarnish Jones Jr's legacy.. WHAT LEGACY??

[ChrististheAnswer2]

He's the most grossly over-rated fighter to ever breath air. I've been saying that since the Reggie Miller fight, I saw him rocked when tagged by a mediocre fighter like Miller and he then made a career of avoided fighters who could punch (and Miller couldn't even punch).

So winning titles as a middleweight, super middleweight, a ton of light heavyweight title defences, and a HW title doesn't make a legacy? He was a great fighter, and had incredibile natural talent, show the man respect.

[JUYJUY]

So winning titles as a middleweight, super middleweight, a ton of light heavyweight title defences, and a HW title doesn't make a legacy? He was a great fighter, and had incredibile natural talent, show the man respect.

He took the easiest route possible.

Vacant IBF title against the unknown Hopkins who wasn't a very good fighter back then (Hopkins only held the USBA title).

Toney was clearly in no fit state to fight at that point in his life, he was very severely weight-drained and depressed.

AWARDED the Light-Heavyweight title after beating 40-year-old McCallum.

AVOIDED Michalczewski for seven years!!

[JUYJUY]

If he didn't pick on the reigning lb4lb #1 Toney at a point when Toney was going through a lot of personal problems (not to mention weight problems) then would Jones Jr Ever of been lb4lb #1?

[Tarver is my dad]

JuyJuy, stop making the same threads over and over and over.

[Bad Intentions]

He took the easiest route possible.

Vacant IBF title against the unknown Hopkins who wasn't a very good fighter back then (Hopkins only held the USBA title).

Toney was clearly in no fit state to fight at that point in his life, he was very severely weight-drained and depressed.

AWARDED the Light-Heavyweight title after beating 40-year-old McCallum.

AVOIDED Michalczewski for seven years!!

Michalczewski didnt come over to the us 2 fight so why should jones go over there when the judges and refs over there suck,(its been proven) And Stop makin excuses for james toney, cuz its no excuse for jones after comin from heavy to fight tarver, and since when has james toney been in shape??? And Hopkins fought the same way back then and after every one left the division is when he took over.. u r so far up Eubanks ass its actually kinda sad....

[JUYJUY]

And Stop makin excuses for james toney

A deal was reached to fight undefeated Olympian Roy Jones Jr. on Nov. 18, 1994, in Las Vegas . However, well before the fight, it was clear that Toney was in trouble even though he was favored to win.

Six weeks before the scheduled meeting, Toney weighed 212 pounds -- 44 pounds over the 168-pound weight limit. Four days before the fight, he still had 18 pounds to go. And while he somehow reached the limit, the weak, dehydrated fighter who stepped into the ring in no way resembled the James Toney who had devastated so many opponents.

Jones, on the move for 12 rounds, ultimately outboxed the champion to win the championship and hand Toney his first defeat.

``Everyone said, `James, pull out of the fight,' '' said Toney, referring to the days leading up to the fight. ``I said, `It doesn't matter. I'll get this guy.' Everyone said, `Postpone it. We ain't in shape.'

``And as soon as the bell rang, it became a track meet. I wasn't in shape but he couldn't knock me out. If he was the best fighter in the world, as people think, he should've knocked me out.''

source: http://www.goossentutor.com/pages/athelets/toney.htm

[JUYJUY]

And Hopkins fought the same way back then

Well no he was actually more of a brawler back then, he developed his counter-punching over time.

[Tarver is my dad]

James Toney is one of the most undisciplined fighters of all time. He always had weight problems but he never made it as an excuse until he got beat by Roy. Also, didn't Roy had a hurt right hand during the fight with Toney? And how come James Toney could make the weight problem as an excuse but when Roy had to lose 25 pounds of muscle and almost lost to my dad in the first fight, he's considered a fraud?

[!! Mr. Soprano]

The guy makes me sick. And look at his eyebrows. I want to ****ing throw up.

Yeah ****, you would rather look at a full collection of Klitschko pictures on your computer..

[IwatchBoxing]

Jones has been finished ever since he moved down from Heaveyweight and got off the steroids. I knew he was gonna lose, thats why I aint lose any sleep waiting for the results..