Comments Thread For: Freddie Roach: Haye is Great, Klitschkos Are Boring

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  • ChopperRead
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    #61
    Originally posted by Mr. Roach
    I agree 100% with what he said.
    What a shocker!

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    • edgarg
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      #62
      Originally posted by Freedom.
      If you think Haye's boasting and lying is exciting then you're a silly child.

      I think what Wlad does outside the ring, such as building schools in Africa and boxing gyms in Ukraine, is much better than Haye's running off at the mouth and cheating on his wife.

      Haye's rabbit punching (Ruiz, Mormeck, Barrett) hitting opponents when they are already down (Fragomeni) and running (Valuev) is not the least bit exciting to me.

      Wlad is a better man both IN AND OUT of the ring. Haye is an arrogant lying scumbag who is full of himself, while Wlad is a classy man.
      This is a very factual, accurate post.

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      • ChopperRead
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        #63
        Originally posted by megas30
        For the first time in my life i agree with Freddie...the Klitschkos' weakness are aggressive fighters with power. You can't box them and win unless you are equal their size and skill.
        Since when has that ever been a weakness of Vitali's? Sanders was aggressive and had power, Arreola is aggressive and has power, Peter is aggressive and has power....

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        • Dynamite Kid
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          #64
          Haye wont come out fast imo, this might be a stand off for a few rounds, then once Haye feels comfortable that he's offset Wlad enough, he'll start trying to shoot in with his explosive attacks imo, but from listening to Steward, it seems that they've been working on anticipating this kind of thing.

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          • ChopperRead
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            #65
            Originally posted by jrrod02
            If Haye is an exciting fighter, I sure as hell didn't see it when he fought Value or Harrison.
            And how is he going to save the division? Doesn't he retire at the end of the year? Unless he beats both Klits and decides to continue fighting I don't see how this can happen.
            Don't ask logical questions -- the Gayemaker fans have no answers.

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            • Spray_resistant
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              #66
              Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
              Haye wont come out fast imo, this might be a stand off for a few rounds, then once Haye feels comfortable that he's offset Wlad enough, he'll start trying to shoot in with his explosive attacks imo, but from listening to Steward, it seems that they've been working on anticipating this kind of thing.
              Well then he has little to no chance of winning if he is going to give Wlad all of that time to get comfortable into his fight and find the proper range.

              Haye needs to come out hard early I think to win before Wlad gets into his usual fight plan and will still be a bit shaky.

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              • Bring It On
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                #67
                Originally posted by edgarg
                I don't think he actually gave credit to the Klitschkos' boxing skills, he just ssaid that they were safety first, and boring.
                "The Klitschko brothers are great boxers but they are boring."

                That's not giving credit in your mind?

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                • ChopperRead
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Mr. Roach
                  "The Klitschko brothers are great boxers but they are boring."

                  That's not giving credit in your mind?
                  It's a backhanded compliment at best. He can't really criticize their records, can he? Freddy needs to get over his resentment of Wlad for dropping him as a trainer.

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                  • Jedi Vader
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ChopperRead
                    Oh come on. Freddy starts this crap every time there's a big Klitschko fight happening. Even Lennox has given up, but not Freddy. He can't forgive Wlad for dropping him back when he was a nobody. Must still be insecure.
                    Please explain to me where Freddy was disrespectful to the Klitschko's in that article. Personally, I cannot stand Freddy Roach but that does not mean that I will slate every solitary thing that he says. I will always give someone their due no matter who.

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                      Well then he has little to no chance of winning if he is going to give Wlad all of that time to get comfortable into his fight and find the proper range.

                      Haye needs to come out hard early I think to win before Wlad gets into his usual fight plan and will still be a bit shaky.

                      I get the impression Haye wont want to let his chance pass him by by being too reckless early which could either see him have major success, but could also get him knocked out before he's even got into the fight.

                      Haye generally has a game plan, so I can see him slowing the tempo down to implement it, then exploding into life when he perceives his chance is there.

                      Do you think he's gonna start fast?

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