Comments Thread For: Arthur Abraham Returning To Middleweight in 3-4 Months?

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  • TheSlickster
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    #11
    Funny, i thought the Abrahammer loved the Bachelor life lol. Yea, 160 would do better and would love to Abraham against the belt holders at 160 and a match against Pavlik to where that would be a tossup imo but Pavlik probably having the edge because of his reach and height.

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    • -Kev-
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      #12
      Abraham became one of my favorite fighters because of his fights in 160. At 168, it's not that he's too short, Glen Johnson was a top Light Heavyweight and is only 1 inch taller than Abraham, also we saw Johnson put up a better fight against Froch than Abraham did.

      I would say it's the 168 fighter are too goo.d Sorry but Abraham knocked out Miranda in 4 rounds cause Miranda is not that good at 168 and Taylor because Taylor was pretty damaged from the Pavlik and Froch KO's. But he couldn't look good against Dirrell, Froch, and Ward, because they are just too good.


      If height mattered, then Corrales would have beaten Mayweather, Margarito wold have beaten Pacquiao, Foreman would have beaten Cotto, etc.

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      • hitking
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        #13
        Good move for King Authur.

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        • BoxingTube
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          #14
          Generally I like Abraham's fight, however it was clear that 168 lb is not his natural division to fight. Most of the super middleweight boxers are in their prime and are the future light heavyweight and cruise weight. In a way i'd say Abraham was actually competing against light heavyweights rather than super middleweights. In spite of glen johnson's ability to land more punches on froch than Abraham was able to, still an expert could see that Johnson too was struggling with reach problems against froch. Froch fights sideway which gives his opponents a very little target to land a solid punch, whereas Abraham and Johnson fight straight forward with both shoulders in the front which gave froch perfect target aim for power punches. Pavlik is not too fast for Abraham and it would be a good fight. As for Martinez he might struggle catching him same way as pavlik did. One great disappointment from Abraham, is that he's lazy and deosn't like to train full extent. Nevertheless, he's best at middleweight and he has no affairs in the super middleweight. He just doesn't want to go that extra mile to reduce his weight. That shows a kind of lazy ass my Armenian brother is. I've seen his training videos. Very slow and lazy moves. He's mostly successful because of his strength and punching power. other than that he'd be OK.

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          • boxer2k5
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            #15
            Originally posted by -Kev-
            Abraham became one of my favorite fighters because of his fights in 160. At 168, it's not that he's too short, Glen Johnson was a top Light Heavyweight and is only 1 inch taller than Abraham, also we saw Johnson put up a better fight against Froch than Abraham did.

            I would say it's the 168 fighter are too goo.d Sorry but Abraham knocked out Miranda in 4 rounds cause Miranda is not that good at 168 and Taylor because Taylor was pretty damaged from the Pavlik and Froch KO's. But he couldn't look good against Dirrell, Froch, and Ward, because they are just too good.


            If height mattered, then Corrales would have beaten Mayweather, Margarito wold have beaten Pacquiao, Foreman would have beaten Cotto, etc.
            i think it was he went in 168 in a tourny with the best. so it was jsut styles make fights it so happen after taylor fight he fought 3 guys who had styles to beat him. hes always a slow starter and work off you getting tired and he builds it up. dirrel showed the blueprint and the rest followed. he showed his weakness and he lost. he was in a tourny with the best in division and there was no cherry picking. only the best of the best will win. he just fought the guys who had the styles to beat him back to back.

            now lets say if he fought taylor then kessler then glen johnson. he could possibly be in the finals because they have styles more sutible for him.

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            • Bram
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              #16
              Hopefully now they can FINALLY make AA-Sturm.

              I do think he was exposed quite a bit at 168 and there're a few fighters at 160 who could duplicate what the super middleweights did to him. So while he may managed to get a belt, I can't imagine him having the kind of success these days that he did in his prime

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              • tostao
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                #17
                abraham is not a boxer , period . Doesn't really matter it's 160 lbs. or 168 lbs. Abraham is a home-made german champion , he got exposed against top boxers in the division .

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                • mushahadeen
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                  #18
                  sounds like a good idea.

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                  • Tobi.G
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    Abraham is just too short to be a top super middleweight. He looked soft and overweight for his 168 fights.

                    He will do well again at 160 if he gets into good physical condition.
                    Ne he loked verry strong and muscular at 168, to strong and muscular. But he moved up because he said he cant make weight! But now he can make weight again? Abrahm physically is a strong 168 pounder but his power of course is not as a big factor. At 160 hes a physical monster whos much stronger than the others and that makes up for his weeknesses. Maybe he can still make 160 if hes more disciplined. Well, at least he TRIED it at 168! We dont have verry good middleweights right now, the only guy right now who i would favour over Abraham is Martinez.

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                    • Tobi.G
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tostao
                      abraham is not a boxer , period . Doesn't really matter it's 160 lbs. or 168 lbs. Abraham is a home-made german champion , he got exposed against top boxers in the division .
                      I think right now Abraham if he can make weight, can beat anybody at 160 besides Martinez right now. The 168 pound division is a verry good strong division, maybe the strongest right now. Middleweight is one of the weakest right now after heavyweight and cruiserweight.

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