Roy Jones - Smoke & Mirrors?

[BLOODSHED]

I havent made one racist remark about you as I dont know your race.

Jones is the fighter of the 90s and for you to take two minutes to make a thread tearing down all his accomplishments is beyond me or any rational boxing fan.

I'm not "hating", I'm making a clear point. I'm expressing a view. All you're doing is flaming.

If you want to disagree with me, EXPLAIN WHY. Don't swear, insult or degrade. And most importantly, don't make racist remarks about me. The owner of this forum told you this is a forum for everyone, regardless of race. I have just as much right as you to express my view of a fighter, regardless of where I was born.

[iwagh911]

I hear ya Anorak and agree. It was an interesting way to go, however it didn't leave me satisfied .

[Guest]

I havent made one racist remark about you as I dont know your race.

Jones is the fighter of the 90s and for you to take two minutes to make a thread tearing down all his accomplishments is beyond me or any rational boxing fan.

IS that what I did? I think if you read it closely, you'll see that it isn't. I also think you'll find not one, but TWO racist remarks from you to me on this thread.

I don't want repetitive flame wars. If you continue in this vein, I may as well just hit "ignore" and let you carry on as you wish. You're giving me nothing to engage with, just name-calling and racism.

[Guest]

I hear ya Anorak and agree. It was an interesting way to go, however it didn't leave me satisfied .

Nice one man, I'd hit you up with good K but I'm out for the night.

[Bombardier]

I have to say that I have my doubts about this "Roy was just trying to compete line". I think Roy is content to let this story get popular now because the truth is he couldn't compete with Antonio in the ring tonight. I'm telling you, Antonio had his number, and the only thing killing him was fatigue.

Every time Roy got a few shots in Antonio countered. I think that psychologically he was out of it halfway through the fight.

People wonder why he didn't go after Tarver in the 12th. Well, psychology is so much in boxing. Guys get ideas in their heads and can't get them out. Look at the way Ali psyched out Sonny Liston...he ruined the man's career by getting in his head. I think in this fight Roy felt like he was finished halfway through and just gave up.

[rsl]

Did Roy really rule the division once or was he lucky to have reigned in an era of low competition? Would Tarver’s formula have always been too much for him or would a peak Roy of a few years ago been able to handle him?

We’ll never really know now. Tonight’s show was just an encore, a vaudeville concoction of tongues, leaping, dancing and smoke and mirrors. Roy was satisfied with playing performing clown in Tarver’s circus roadshow, a last hurrah from the man who had once ruled the division effortlessly.

Gone was the Roy of old, even against a Tarver who was surprisingly cautious and ran out of air at least three minutes before the end of the bout. There was very little boxing on show tonight, just a hyper display of routine tics and gimmickry, there to please the crowd and give a final farewell. This wasn’t Roy claiming his title. It was Roy’s goodbye, only this time not being carried out.

If that was indeed Roy’s objective then he succeeded admirably. The notion that a man who was p4p the world’s best fighter for most of a decade should go out a performing second-best is hard to take, but an ambition Roy had had eleven months to come to terms with.

There were flashes of brilliance – he took punches better than expected in the eleventh, though remember when he wasn’t expected to take them at all? Yet for me the favourite round had to be the fifth. ****y, posturing, Roy squatted in front of a man who had knocked him senseless with a single punch and rubbed his socks, made jive faces and dodged a multitude of punches on reflexes alone. Then he backed Tarver up, and even managed to solve the problem of being pinned on the ropes – for a couple of occasions, at least – by using the uppercut.

Sadly it was all too brief, and what I imagine will be the final appearance of Roy in a boxing ring was even sadder than his last two appearances at such a venue. Not laid out cold, but play acting and running, desperate not to take that one last chance. What a waste.

I really don't see what everybody is hot about. Roy did the typical Afro-American juke n' jive thing, show-off first and not try to win at all! Roy's main goal in that fight was to not end up on his back spread eagled again(I thought prior to the fight that Roy would've been happy w/ a moral victory , and he accomplished it and even withstood a right hook similar to the one Pac unloaded on Velasquez. I even thought he might've broken Tarver's rib in one of the mid-rounds when he was against the ropes and worked his way out of it. Turns out he just stung him w/ a good body shot and an uppercut. Hats off to Roy I thought it was gonna be either be a mid to late round k.o. but he had some moments where if he would've done more, Tarver may have been the one on his ass, and besides not being ko'd by Tarver he didn't even see the canvas at all. I actually think RJJ has a few more in him(he looks a helluva lot more quicker than a lot of the fighters in their 20's and that includes Lacy and Taylor), but his psyche to be in the fight game is shot.

[TKODoll]

Seriously... let's have a DISCUSSION here. Just getting two morons flaming and posting racist comments is no good to anyone, particularly not when one's from my new stalker.

I'm not allowed to write about American fighters? Shut the **** up, prick!

Watch your language.

[The Pretender]

What the hell is a pinoy anyway is that some type of nut or something? Sounds like the portuguese word for penis...

[Guest]

Watch your language.

Mind your own business, idiot. In fact... **** YOU.

[Guest]

Oh... how many boxers could stand in front of the No.1 man in their division and avoid getting hit with a multitude of punches just on head movement alone? Even an old Roy Jones had something to offer.