What damage has Floyd done to Mannys career?

[PlayerKiller]

I was going to buy Pac fights until I heard he was on roids. So did 3 of my friends.

I think Floyd lost him loads of PPV.

[BoxingFollower]

Lol, no Manny damaged the sport of boxing. All he had to do is call Floyd out on his bluff and he could of made Floyd look like a ass.

And right now Manny and his party, are claiming that there ready for OST, well he once again could have called Mayweathers bluff by having Shane Mosley vs Pacquiao OST or Juan Marquez vs Manny Pacquiao with OST.

[BoZz]

you people have to understand something,it was not manny who came up with the idea it was his owner bob arum..and it was also arum who told manny to ask floyd for the 10 million dollars if he comes in one pound heavier.The smart folks understand the fact that arum is doing everything to avoid putting manny in the same ring as floyd mayweather..manny is arums cash cow..I mean who else would pay to watch manny fight mosley?? Of course the *******s!!! Arum knows pacs fans will make him lot's of money even tho he's promoting rubbish fights..and that's why he will do anything and tell anything to pac just to avoid mayweather.

[BoZz]

arum is telling him what to do and what to say.

If you have any questions regarding my comments

please


talk to my promoter.

[fceeviper]

These Pac and May threads are getting old, quick!

[BoxingFollower]

arum is telling him what to do and what to say.

If you have any questions regarding my comments

please


talk to my promoter.

*******s don't wanna hear that. When Mayweather vs Pacquiao negogiations first failed, we tried to say that it was probably ARUM, and we wanted to give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt.

However Pacquiao fans seem to think of Arum as being the a POPE, they don't understand that Arum has been doing shady business deals for 40 years+!! Longer than Floyd or Pacquiao has been alive.

[KitangKatag]

yeah it can be looked at as strange but its not illegal and its fairly simple since both fighters would be taking it! This makes sense with the biggest fight in the history of the sport right??? Why not??? And both fighters excercised their right to have a demand for the fight to be made, pac demanded 10mil per pound over the limit right? So what if a person goes tit for tat and asks why he didnt demand that b4

So it looked stranged, and i agree with you that its not illegal and that both of them will be participating nothing wrong with that.

It simple doesn't make sense at all, there have been some biggest fights in the history of boxing and none of them demanded extra assurances. They rather get it on see who will come out the winner.

Why demand and extra test when that's the commissioners job? and like i said Floyd didn't enforced this changed to the commissioner only when he fights why?

If the commissioners procedure is out of date and so uneffective why aren't they adapting to OSDT? whats stopping them from doing so? can you actually give an answer to this?

Manny demanded 10 million as a deterent to floyd from coming up extra on the weight, he did it to marquez didn't he?

So has any of those fighters i mentioned showed any signs of a brain injury for fighting Manny? If NO is the answer then floyd's test doesn't have a solid ground to stand into.

[BoZz]

*******s don't wanna hear that. When Mayweather vs Pacquiao negogiations first failed, we tried to say that it was probably ARUM, and we wanted to give Pacquiao the benefit of the doubt.

However Pacquiao fans seem to think of Arum as being the a POPE, they don't understand that Arum has been doing shady business deals for 40 years+!! Longer than Floyd or Pacquiao has been alive.

Arum also said that floyd is the greatest boxer ever and of course he knew what he was talking about,now he has to protect his biggest cash cow from the guy he called the greatest.

[Prince Mongo]

So you have some doubts about this PEDS on manny..why is that? floyd started all of this rinsed and repeat by his fans and it has somehow slowly got into your system as well?

Can you blamed Manny for not bowing down on floyds demand? and isn't floyd a serial repeat offender as well as his family and thats a known FACT isn't it? and your giving him credibilities on this? And you doubt manny with no FACTS to back up he has a criminal record but because he refused to give in to floyds test?

And who do you think will get crucified in this closing lawsuit? IF manny shows signs of using PEDS is pure hypocrisy on his part for continuing the lawsuit against floyd.

If floyd has documents he WILL show up at the hearing and present his evidence/proofs, if he ducked and is liable to pay damages to manny then the GUILTY cannot be exonorated.

Your only doubting Manny as "guilty until proven inoccent",

This debates is pointless as the writtings on the wall has been overwritten millions of time already.. The lawsuit will settled this issue once and for all since they cant settle this in the ring.

There are several athletes that I have had doubts about where later it was PROVEN they were on PEDs. It is a gut feel and I have a feeling that Manny has used PEDs at points in his training I have had the same feeling about Tiger Woods and Dwaine Chambers, Linford Christie ,Evander Hollyfield in the past. I don't ned to see court room evidence and as for your you are innocent until proved guilty that would mean you would never have any doubts about anybody which is childish. Manny's super human performance and physical improvement make me suspect a strong possibility of PED use. I think you have to be a moron to not think there has been a chance he has been on gear. That is living in the real world and I make this point again I am a fan of Manny. Being a fan does not mean I have to lose the ability to think straight or go against a strong intuitive feeling.

[comanick]

you people have to understand something,it was not manny who came up with the idea it was his owner bob arum..and it was also arum who told manny to ask floyd for the 10 million dollars if he comes in one pound heavier.The smart folks understand the fact that arum is doing everything to avoid putting manny in the same ring as floyd mayweather..manny is arums cash cow..I mean who else would pay to watch manny fight mosley?? Of course the *******s!!! Arum knows pacs fans will make him lot's of money even tho he's promoting rubbish fights..and that's why he will do anything and tell anything to pac just to avoid mayweather.

i kinda agree with this. I think Arum has done alot to protect his cash cow.

I remember watching the floyd-mosely fight and during one of the rounds i heard larry merchant say something like " After the pac nego broke down floyd felt like he had to take on a dangerous opponent or else it would look like he was ducking pac and that is what he is doing here."
When the first nego broke down floyd fought the most dangerous opponent out there at the time which was mosley. pac walked away from nego and he hasnt fought a dangerous opponent since.

That says something there. If manny didnt fight floyd and was taking tough fights then i wouldnt say anything. But the truth is he didnt just duck floyd but he has ducked good opposition in general since that time.