Ban Germany?

[Nautilus]

I know there may be quit some robberies at Vegas...

BUT

Compare the ratio and percentage...

compare the ratio and percentage?

do you even have the data to compute these?

[Tha Greatest]

sure... but the stats are quite informative in showing that Hopkins landed more total punches and more power punches.

Listen man,

Fights are not judged by the number of punches and power punches landed. He didn't do **** for the first 5-6 rounds, he may have beat the **** out of Taylor, but Taylor won because he was throwing punches n ****.

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Ok sure. I will agree Germans have a strange system in place for reffing and judging fights.

But going back to the point of the thread, I say no. You cant ban Germany without banning Las Vegas.

It is equally as bad. And maybe worse in a sense because of the big names and marquis fights.

The thing that really gets me about German fights is that no matter now bad the decision is the fans will always applaud the winner. When i see a bad decision in Vegas the fans normally acknowledge their man should have really lost.

If not ban them they shoudl at least investigate some of these decisions, especially something as bad as Ottke vs Reid, i know everyone keeps mentioning that fight but it just goes to show how bad it really was.

But i suppose fighters go to Germany knowing the could get robbed, but they take the risk because the moneys so good.

[Tha Greatest]

compare the ratio and percentage?

do you even have the data to compute these?

Listen...

There are ten thousand more title fights at Vegas then there is at Germany...

A very small ratio of these fights are robberies, where in Germany a large percentage end in robberies.

[Run]

The thing that really gets me about German fights is that no matter now bad the decision is the fans will always applaud the winner. When i see a bad decision in Vegas the fans normally acknowledge their man should have really lost.

If not ban them they shoudl at least investigate some of these decisions, especially something as bad as Ottke vs Reid, i know everyone keeps mentioning that fight but it just goes to show how bad it really was.

But i suppose fighters go to Germany knowing the could get robbed, but they take the risk because the moneys so good.

I admit. Reid v.s. Ottke was horrible.

Keep in mind though. Here in the States, robberies are common.

three names:

Emmanuel Augustus Burton.



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[Nautilus]

Listen man,

Fights are not judged by the number of punches and power punches landed. He didn't do **** for the first 5-6 rounds, he may have beat the **** out of Taylor, but Taylor won because he was throwing punches n ****.

Power Punches Landed / Thrown

Round
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Hopkins 2/6 5/13 4/6 5/19 7/17 2/6 3/10 3/12 5/19 15/43 16/33 11/33
Taylor 2/13 8/17 1/11 4/20 6/17 11/18 5/11 2/16 2/15 3/19 1/10 5/22


Hopkins landed more power punches in rounds 3,4,5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12

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Final PunchStat Report

Punches Landed / Thrown


Total Punches Jabs Power Punches
Hopkins 96 / 326 18 / 109 78 / 217
Taylor 86 / 453 36 / 264 50 / 189

Fights are judged round by round, Hopkins could have landed 10x as many punches as Taylor but it doesnt change the fact Hopkins lost the first 6 rounds because he didnt even try to fight.

[Run]

While I do believe that DLH won against Trinidad I wouldnt call it a flat out robbery. The fact is that DLH ran and didnt do enough to win convincingly. A little of the same can be said for BHop vs Taylor.

Oh god.

One judge gave 3 of the first 4 rounds to Trinidad. Also the 12th to De La Hoya.

That fight = Fix from hell.



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[Nautilus]

Fights are judged round by round, Hopkins could have landed 10x as many punches as Taylor but it doesnt change the fact Hopkins lost the first 6 rounds because he didnt even try to fight.

his advantage in power-punching was well distributed over rounds, as shown in the post that precedes yours

Hopkins dominated in terms of power-punching in 8 out of 12 rounds, including rounds 3,4, and 5.

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I admit. Reid v.s. Ottke was horrible.

Keep in mind though. Here in the States, robberies are common.

three names:

Emmanuel Augustus Burton.

I only see the bigger fights in US, so i probably dont see these robberys. Here in the UK fights normally get judged correctly, theres always a few debates about close decision but thats always going to happen because its personal opinion.

I like Augustus, but he does get a few bad decisions. Surely a man who give Mayweather trouble should have a better record than he does.