If Ortiz Is Better Than Pacuiao

[eklok]

manny sure woulndt fight him ever.....until floyd fights him first

like cotto , margarito and clottey , also marquez , u fail son !!!!

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[mikemurni]

Pacman has the benefit of the doubt.Pacman's resume is far far greater,but head to head,no one can say for certain who is better.That's real talk.Fans might say that Ortiz isn't in Pacman's league & whatever else,but the reality is that Pacman hasn't fought a live opponent since Cotto,Ortiz has.Now anyone can assume that Berto wouldn't beat Pacman,even I don't think he could.But I don't know for sure.What I do know is that Ortiz beat Berto,who arguably is better than Clottey,Margarito,Mosley & Marquez at the weight Pacman fought them at & the time he did.

What gave you the conclusion that Ortiz is better than Marg and Clottey in the first place when Ortiz only had 1 fight at WW. And he fought a hyped up, protected, paper champion in Berto.. Ortiz is not even a successful Junior Welter. There are like 4-5 guys who are better than him in that division...

Plus Pac fought Margarito and Clottey when they were still one of the top guys in that division. Losing against another top WW does not diminish your standings in that division. That what happens when the best fights the best. They were not losing to anyone else except themselves.

[Bushbaby]

Pacman has the benefit of the doubt.Pacman's resume is far far greater,but head to head,no one can say for certain who is better.That's real talk.Fans might say that Ortiz isn't in Pacman's league & whatever else,but the reality is that Pacman hasn't fought a live opponent since Cotto,Ortiz has.Now anyone can assume that Berto wouldn't beat Pacman,even I don't think he could.But I don't know for sure.What I do know is that Ortiz beat Berto,who arguably is better than Clottey,Margarito,Mosley & Marquez at the weight Pacman fought them at & the time he did.

u still have ***** logic , now go ahead and explain how ortiz is better than pac

U see exactly as I thought,ur too ****** to know better,how bout U point out where,if ever that I said Ortiz is better than Pacman.Now I understand reading & comprehending isn't a ******* strong suite,but u can't make wars when there's nothing to fight about,true story.

[johnle43]

i dont think ortiz is better than pac but i think he could beat pac. just like i dont think pac is necessarily better than floid but i think he'd beat him. ima sucker for the "styles make fights" i guess.

[Bushbaby]

What gave you the conclusion that Ortiz is better than Marg and Clottey in the first place when Ortiz only had 1 fight at WW. And he fought a hyped up, protected, paper champion in Berto.. Ortiz is not even a successful Junior Welter. There are like 4-5 guys who are better than him in that division...

Plus Pac fought Margarito and Clottey when they were still one of the top guys in that division. Losing against another top WW does not diminish your standings in that division. That what happens when the best fights the best. They were not losing to anyone else except themselves.

Arguably,U obviously don't know what it means.Go take up literature & come holla when U get a clue.

[eklok]

U see exactly as I thought,ur too ****** to know better,how bout U point out where,if ever that I said Ortiz is better than Pacman.Now I understand reading & comprehending isn't a ******* strong suite,but u can't make wars when there's nothing to fight about,true story.

"Now anyone can assume that Berto wouldn't beat Pacman,even I don't think he could.But I don't know for sure.What I do know is that Ortiz beat Berto,who arguably is better than Clottey,Margarito,Mosley & Marquez at the weight Pacman fought them at & the time he did."

por jus santo amigo , what are you trying to imply ? that ortiz might actually be better cause he fought a hypejob in berto , i know it wasnt said but in context i can blatantly see where your going , im not trying to get in a war , i just call it as it is

[shogunn]

Because Roger is floyds fan, and floyds fan are known to be ******ed

[mikemurni]

Arguably,U obviously don't know what it means.Go take up literature & come holla when U get a clue.

You giving me pointers is like getting directions from a blind man. You are an idiot so why would I even consider that statement seriously...

[Bushbaby]

"Now anyone can assume that Berto wouldn't beat Pacman,even I don't think he could.But I don't know for sure.What I do know is that Ortiz beat Berto,who arguably is better than Clottey,Margarito,Mosley & Marquez at the weight Pacman fought them at & the time he did."

por jus santo amigo , what are you trying to imply ? that ortiz might actually be better cause he fought a hypejob in berto , i know it wasnt said but in context i can blatantly see where your going , im not trying to get in a war , i just call it as it is

Read that again,then come C me.I don't know If Ortiz is better,but he has a claim to discussion.Most wave him off.I won't.Remember while Berto was at welterweight racking up wins,Pacman was fighting Clottey who only beat Judah & Corrales,Margarito a proven cheat & Mosley who was clearly shot 1 year before.Facts,by the way.