why did james toney end up with brain damage?

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  • Russian Crushin
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    #11
    Originally posted by Steak
    ah, well jaundice typically is self-caused through substance abuse. unless he actually has started having freak liver failures for some reason, which is possible, its likely because hes been drinking too much.
    that would also be a reason for how overweight he is.
    Ill be honest, i had no idea he had an alcohol problem, so that is probably the cause

    Also i remember that Toney has thyroid problems and low testosterone levels from brain trauma which are both known to cause weight gain.

    So overall, he's just all ****ed up

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      #12
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      The mechanism in the brain that makes you knocked out dont work, so he was taking punches he shouldnt have taken. He cant be knocked out even if Mike Tyson and Bruce lee hit him at the same time and their punches landed on him at the same time.
      Same thing that some people are allergic to water and daylight. The mechanism that makes you be knocked out is missing in his head.
      Do you have a source for this? Or are you just talking ****?

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        #13
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        Ill be honest, i had no idea he had an alcohol problem, so that is probably the cause

        Also i remember that Toney has thyroid problems and low testosterone levels from brain trauma which are both known to cause weight gain.

        So overall, he's just all ****ed up
        With all of his problems, it's hard to understand how he gets cleared to fight.

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        • Steak
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          #14
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          Ill be honest, i had no idea he had an alcohol problem, so that is probably the cause

          Also i remember that Toney has thyroid problems and low testosterone levels from brain trauma which are both known to cause weight gain.

          So overall, he's just all ****ed up
          well I dont know he has alcohol problems, its just a hunch because its the main major cause for jaundice. I could be spouting off complete bull****.

          but yeah, hes been in bad shape for a number of years now.

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          • oaklandstephen
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            #15
            i think its because of all the sparring he does.

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              #16
              Didn't he spar to get in shape instead of run? He must have taken a whole lot of shots to the head after boxing for twenty years.

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                #17
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                The mechanism in the brain that makes you knocked out dont work, so he was taking punches he shouldnt have taken. He cant be knocked out even if Mike Tyson and Bruce lee hit him at the same time and their punches landed on him at the same time.
                Same thing that some people are allergic to water and daylight. The mechanism that makes you be knocked out is missing in his head.
                is this a joke?

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                  #18
                  It is just not him. There are a long line of great defensive fighters who suffered punch drunk effects.

                  Two off the top of my head were Whitaker and Benitez. Now it could have also been substance abuse that assisted to the point they are in, but it just goes to show that every person has a different tolerance on how much they can take. Every fighter is different. Many defensive wizards come out of the sport just fine.

                  Even many rock chinned fighters with no defense, can come out of the sport perfectly fine. Look at Chuvalo as an example. It may also happen to Margarito. It is basically a lottery. Some win, some don't.

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                  • MARKBNLV
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                    #19
                    Toney has always been dumb.

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                    • Steak
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by deanrw
                      It is just not him. There are a long line of great defensive fighters who suffered punch drunk effects.

                      Two off the top of my head were Whitaker and Benitez. Now it could have also been substance abuse that assisted to the point they are in, but it just goes to show that every person has a different tolerance on how much they can take. Every fighter is different. Many defensive wizards come out of the sport just fine.

                      Even many rock chinned fighters with no defense, can come out of the sport perfectly fine. Look at Chuvalo as an example. It may also happen to Margarito. It is basically a lottery. Some win, some don't.
                      while part of it is a lottery, I think there is more to it. defensive fighters are not used to being hit, and eventually they will get hit. when theyre unprepared and dont brace for shots, it rattles their brain more. guys like Chuvalo and Margarito are ready to soak up punishment by rolling with shots and were always ready to get hit.

                      its overlooked often, but there is a certain amount of skill involved in taking punches cleanly, which is why Ali purposefully allowed himself to get hit in sparring leading up to fights.

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