if calzaghe took frochs route, would he have a loss??

[gmc_rfc_06]

I think you have to count all the times he was fighting an English fighter in England. Reid, Delaney, not sure where Woodhall fight was.

But yeah, he didn't have enough belief for me, outside the ring at least.

I mean guys like Ottke, Beyer. There is no way they could have beat Calzaghe even in Germany.

He's a British fighter though, even in England he still had a great support in every arena. I do agree that most guy's Joe beat would have had no chance in any country, but most guy's on his resume were pretty poor fighters.

The thing for me is whether Joe would have went to the States to fight Roy Jones and Hopkins if he didn't think they were both past it? I don't see it. Froch will travel anywhere and fight anybody, Joe wouldn't fight anybody...at home, much less away from home.

[Toney616]

He's a British fighter though, even in England he still had a great support in every arena. I do agree that most guy's Joe beat would have had no chance in any country, but most guy's on his resume were pretty poor fighters.

The thing for me is whether Joe would have went to the States to fight Roy Jones and Hopkins if he didn't think they were both past it? I don't see it. Froch will travel anywhere and fight anybody, Joe wouldn't fight anybody...at home, much less away from home.

Hopkins was offered the fight around 2001 and he turned it down.

[RichCCFC]

Dirrell would be only one to give him trouble, but he'd have won because he's simply the better fighter.